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Can this round be used anywhere on any game in Africa, or are there laws that make it illegal to use it in certain places for heavy game? Thanks Don't Ever Book a Hunt with Jeff Blair or Blair Worldwide Hunting http://forums.accuratereloadin...043/m/3471078051/p/1 | ||
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It's a highly respected cartridge in most of Africa and legal for DG in some, but yes, there are countries where it is not legal for all DG. | |||
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For DG, 9,3 is ok in Zimbabwe Not OK in Zambia and I have seen conflicted information re: Tanzania Mike Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. ![]() What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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It is legal in Mozambique for dangerous game. Honestly, I think any energy restriction of 4,000 Joules is closer to 3,000 foot pounds than 4. | |||
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Its modern Africa we are talking about ![]() | |||
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4000 joules = 2950 ft-lbs. Top handloads of at least 4000 ft-lbs are safely possible from 250s, 286s, 300s and 320s from the 9.3 x 62 using some of today's best powders. 4000 ft-lbs = 5423 joules. Bob www.bigbores.ca "Let every created thing give praise to the LORD, for he issued his command, and they came into being" - King David, Psalm 148 (NLT) | |||
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I killed a lion in Namibia with one. I like the cartridge. Check with the outfit in the particular country you are hunting in. | |||
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I have no experience with African DG. I do have a lot of info on loads and even some bullet test of the 9.3X62. PM me with your email if you want old articles etc. IMHO the real issue for this caliber is the use of the right bullets. For traditional cup & lead core bullets, I would suggest the Norma 286, Woodleigh 286 or the Lapua mega 285. TSX, Nosler, Swift, CEB etc would be the premium bullets. I would not use the Hornady, Speer, RWS, Privi Partizan etc. for DG. "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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It is not technically correct to say the 9.3 is legal in Zimbabwe. It CAN be legal in Zimbabwe, but only if the load delivers the 5.3kJ of muzzle energy required by the act. The late Don Heath carried little else and swore by it, but he was an accomplished reloader and a crack shot. Some countries don't have restrictions, others restrict by calibre, and others by muzzle energy, so you have to check country by country. | |||
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ijl, Then neither is the 375hh technically legal in Zimbabwe if it is down loaded to 2400 fps. But last I checked, there were no conservation officers carrying chronographs in the bush, a beam scale, and a bullet puller. ![]() Mike Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. ![]() What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Not sure how often this has been discussed and if it is doing the 9,3x62 users a favour to bring it up again and again. But I guess this is internet. I personally have used and would again use this caliber sucessfully in Africa on DGR. | |||
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You are making me think of a chrony stage in an IPSC match. | |||
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