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Ladies and Gentlemen,

Above are all the bullets we were able to recover from the animals we shot this year. All are 375 caliber, 300 grain Walterhog bullets we made ourselves.

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1. New bullets
2. Recovered from a wildebeest, went into his chest as he was facing us, and was found in one of his rear legs. Retained weight is 233 grains - 77%.

3. Recovered from a wildebeest lying down. Bullet went into his chest from the rear, and was found in his neck. Retained weight 227 grains - 75%.

4. From a buffalo bull, quartering towards us. Bullet went in the shoulder, and was found in his rear leg. Retained weight 229 grains - 76%.

5. Recovered from a kongoni, walking away. Went in in the rear leg, and was found in his neck. Retained weight 235 grains - 78%.

6. Recovered from a buffalo bull, quartering away. Bullet went in just infront of the rear leg, and was found in his opposite shoulder. Retained weight 223 grains - 74%.

7. Recovered from a wildebeest. Bullet went in just infront of the rear leg, and was found in his opposite shoulder. Retained weight 229 grains - 76%.

8. Recovered from a hippo head. Bullet went into his jaw from the rear. Retained weight 229 grains - 76%.

9. Recovered from a waterbuck. Bulletw ent into his rear leg, and was found in his shoulder. Retained weight 225 grains - 75%.

10. Recovered from a buffalo bull. Bullet went in just behind one shoulder, and was recovere in the opposite shoulder. Retained weight 228 grains - 76%.

11. Recovered from a buffalo bull. Bullet went into his stomach from the rear, and was found in the opposite shoulder. Retained weight 229 grains - 76%.

12. Recovered from a croc. He was quartering towards us, and the bullet went into his neck, and was recovered from under the skin behind the opposite shoulder. Retained weight 298 grains - 99%.

13. Recovered from a croc head. He was quartering towards us, and the bullet was found in his neck. Retained weight 230 grains - 76%.

14. Recovered from a buffalo bull. Bullet hit a leadwood tree branch about 1 inch in diameter about 7 yards before hitting the buffalo. It went into the buffalos spine sideways, breaking his spine, and was found under the skin on the other side. Retained weight 300 grains - 100%.

15. Recovered from abuffalo bull. Bulletw ent in behind his shoulder, and was found in his neck. Retained weight 229 grains - 76%.

16. Recovered from a zebra. He was facing us straight. Bullet went into his neck from the front, and was found in his rear leg. Retained weight 232 grains - 77%.


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When are you making some for the 338, this are impressive results!!!
 
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It doesn't appear there was much expansion (not necessairly a bad thing) but great penetration. Why not just use a solid?
 
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Saeed, may I ask what kind of copper you use for this bullet? Full hard, half hard, etc.?

And do you notice less fouling with this bullet than with other bullets you have used in the past?

Also, do you observe more velocity with a given powder charge for the Walterhog bullet compared to other types of bullets?
 
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These are made of plain copper - we only have one source. They are used for earthing electrical componets.

I did check the hardness, and it is within 2% of what normal copper should be.

The main criteria for these bullets is to work well on buffalo. They seem to do that very well.

Also, they seem to expand very quickly when they hit an animals.

We noticed smaller animals like impala drop in their tracks. The bullet leaving a very large ecit hole.

I used this bullet to shoot a leopard. He dropped dead from s shoulder shot.

By their looks, they lose the front part as far as the hollow point. After that they behave like a flat point solid.

We do make them in other calibers, like 308, 338, 404 and 375. We also make them as solids for the 416, 458 and 585 calibers.

But, they are all for our own use, not for sale.

I have not compared them side by side with other bullets regarding any increase in velocity, but, subjectively we seem to be getting slightly more velocity.

There is absolutely no fouling one can speak of at all. But, I think this is due to the molly coating we have on them.

Both rifles barrels were spotlessly clean after a few patches.

There was hardly any green on them at all.

We used to use Barnes X bullets with molly coating, and we had the same results.


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Saeed, can you tell us how fast you are driving these bullets from your .375/.404?


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Saeed, thanks for the additional detail.
 
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I'm impressed with the consistency of results on several different animals and several different shots.

You could maybe improve the weight retention by decreasing the depth of the hollow point. But based on your statements that you are getting adequate penetration everytime, I don't believe you would want to.
 
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Saeed,

Do you have any Cross Section Pictures of the bullets. I am interesteed to know how far the Hollow Point extends down in the bullet.

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If I remember correctly you used the Barnes X bullets before you started making the Walterhog. Would you compare and contast these two bullets in regards to field preformace.
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The velocity of our loads is around 2700 fps. We found this to be the optimum for best performance.

The hollow point extends down to the end of the ogive. If you look at the photo above and compare the unfired bullet with the one next to it, you will get an idea where the HP stops. It is about 12mm deep.

We did use the Barnes X quite a lot in the past, and frankly, any differences between them and ours is purely subjective.

They worked on all the animals we have shot with them - several hundreds.

This is our third design of our Walterhog bullets.

We tried a shallower HP, and those worked great on buffalo, but, they seem to just wizz through smaller animals.

We then made the HP larger in diameter, and deeper. That reduced the penetration a bit.

So we reduced the diameter of the HP, and reduced the depth slightly.

This seems to work very well, so we left things as they are.

These bullets have been used last year and this year. And we are all very satisfied with their performance.

I think we will leave them as they are.


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Excellent. clap

Ditto the .375 Weatherby or RUM or Lapua with 300 grain TSX at 2740 fps.

Too bad GSC doesn't want to promote their 300 grain HV and FN. Pity. Wink

The little brother .375 H&H does the same velocities with the 265 and 270 grainers.

The .375 H&H "wild and crazy" Heavy Magnum and High Energy factory loads cannot handle the longer monometals. They can't even do all they claim with the lead-cored bullets either. Wild and crazy velocity and accurracy.

If George Hoffman, bless his soul, revived the .416 caliber parade, then Saeed has revived the fast .375's with his monotonous successes with 300 grain monometals in the .375 UAE.

Us po'folk use rifles in .375 Weatherby, .375 RUM, .375 Lapua, and .378 Weatherby to do as Saeed does. thumb
 
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Saeed:
Must be nice to not have the government regulation and bull.... we have over here when it comes to setting up bullet companies, and shipping the product, or in your case, not shipping the product.

Great stuff. Keep up the good work, and reports.

GS
 
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BTT for my convenience, and others.
 
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