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Everything but Elephant
You are planning a safari hunting everything but elephant. What is your caliber of choice?
Thanks,
jfm
21 March 2011, 06:21
Express_Rifles416 Of any flavor.
21 March 2011, 06:25
BiebsI think either a 416 (for Buff) or a 375 would do it. I used a 416 Rigby on my last trip to Namibia, and took Elephant, Hippo, Zebra, Kudu, Steenbok, and a Hartebeast with it. I could do the trip you described with a 375 I suppose, but I like a 416 or better on Buffalo.
21 March 2011, 06:45
larryshoresI agree completely.
21 March 2011, 07:03
Cross L416
21 March 2011, 07:14
LionHunterYes! A .416 anything would be my choice as well.
I can't believe the .375 lovers haven't chimed in yet, but I'm sure they will be here directly. Why use a "minimum" caliber that is only "adequate" for DG?
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21 March 2011, 07:20
mohanI agree 416.
21 March 2011, 07:32
LittleJoeI cannot comment on a 416 as I don't own one but I love my 375 and it shoots extremely well and I am very very confident in it. I think it is more about confidence then some other factors in my opinion.
21 March 2011, 07:33
MJines+1 on the .416.
Mike
21 March 2011, 07:40
venda axequote"In my fiftyfive years of professional hunting my respect for the 375H&H cartridge has increased each time I saw it used.In my opinion the greatest cartridge ever developed. I would prefer to see a visiting hunter arrive for his safari with such a rifle than withany double of any caliber."
One planet one rifle 375H&H
21 March 2011, 07:45
Cross Lquote:
Originally posted by venda axe:
quote"In my fiftyfive years of professional hunting my respect for the 375H&H cartridge has increased each time I saw it used.In my opinion the greatest cartridge ever developed. I would prefer to see a visiting hunter arrive for his safari with such a rifle than withany double of any caliber."
Yep but the 416's arent doubles
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21 March 2011, 07:54
Express_Rifles375 416 take which ever your shoot better..Remember dead is dead but theres no
such thing as over dead ..
21 March 2011, 08:18
NakihunterNo experience with Africa but i could get by with my 9.3X62.
If I had the money I'd build a 404 Jeffery on a Mauser 98 action.
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21 March 2011, 10:46
ozhunter9.3x62 or 9.3x64.
21 March 2011, 16:53
BEGNO.416 or 404 Jeffery
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21 March 2011, 17:13
safari-lawyer416 for me.
Will J. Parks, III
21 March 2011, 20:52
retreeverHaving a little more gun is always better. Pro-active instead of reactive. I do love the 375.
If you do a 16 day Tanzania all of your choices are on license. You decide which ones to bag and when. Buf, hippo, chui and a slew of plains game.
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21 March 2011, 21:33
L. David KeithAnother vote for the .416 but the .375 will do the job if you shoot it well. I'd also want a light caliber if small antelope were on the ticket. Solids will punch holes with large calibers but forget it at beyond 200 yards unless you load for it and shoot very well. I usually take 2 rifles and a shotgun.
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21 March 2011, 23:59
LionHunterIan Nyschens did not like bolt guns on Ele, but as regards the .416 his comment was that it was in a "whole separate class." His meaning was that the .416s were an exceptional caliber, and he would have known.
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22 March 2011, 01:37
ledvmquote:
You are planning a safari hunting everything but elephant. What is your caliber of choice?
If I was "only taking 1 rifle" and doin full bag sans ele...and...only shooting 1 buff...I would take my .375 H&H hands down.
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22 March 2011, 02:06
cable68I'd say 9.3 or 375.
Caleb
22 March 2011, 16:55
Aspen Hill AdventuresThe .375H&H, big or small, it does 'em all!
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22 March 2011, 18:33
ArnietGet your big gun first.
I killed a bull ele with a 375 H&H, but felt it was a little small for that kind of work.
My dear wife says, "If I had come back in a shoebox, she would let me buy a bigger gun. However, since the 375 worked, that is big enough".
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23 March 2011, 00:48
Von GruffI would take my 404 if just taking the one rifle.
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23 March 2011, 01:04
eyedocEverything but elephant sounds like a great 375 H&H safari to me.I have 416 and 470 NE at my disposal but they are not needed for the other stuff.Carry some solids and some softs and you got it covered.
I will say that sometimes I go out a bit over-gunned just because I want to shoot the big guns.
We seldom get to choose
But I've seen them go both ways
And I would rather go out in a blaze of glory
Than to slowly rot away!
23 March 2011, 01:59
daleW.375 H & H TSX bullets. That is all you need.
If it it too much gun, use .300 win mag. for plains game.
23 March 2011, 09:21
Wendell ReichIf you can shoot a 416 or 404 well, then go with that. If it is more than you care to manage, 375 will get it done nicely! Even if you do decide to shoot an Elephant.
My 375 H&H is probably the most accurate gun I own. Incredible sub moa groups are the norm.
23 March 2011, 21:23
Max TraumaI like 416 caliber. the lighter 416s like the remington are very recoil frendly. if you can shoot a 375 then you can shoot a 416. I have would shoot an ele with a 375 but I am afraid of buffalo and like as big as I can handle. I like to take one gun and with qd mounts you can use a scope for pg and irons for dg. I usually take two scopes incase one gets damaged. If I were taking 2 guns My choice would be 378 wby for pg and 500 nitro double for dg.