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There is an article about it on page 32 in the January edition of American Hunter magazine. | ||
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Like MJines said We do need one organization that has lot of clout in Washingon and NRA with some backing from SCI, DSC etc fits the bill " Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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If every NRA member that hunted belonged to SCI, and if every SCI member that owned a gun belonged to the NRA, we wouldn't be discussing this. Sadly, we are still very divided.. and it all has to do with EGO.. just like the differences between DSC and SCI, the NRA, GOA, JPFO and all the rest.... We DO NOT speak with one voice due to EGO's and other, often petty, self interests... AND THE OPPOSITION KNOWS IT, and uses it agains us quite effectively.. NRA Benefactor. Life is tough... It's even tougher when you're stupid... John Wayne | |||
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I agree. I am a life member of both, along with the RMEF.  | |||
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Larry, I read the article in the online version of American Hunter, and noticed your post in the comments below the story. You did well! Anyone who can say, "After 21 African safaris..." will get some well-deserved attention. After almost 20 years of NRA grassroots activism in California, I am still amazed at the circular firing squad that so many gun owners continue to participate in. Best regards, Tim | |||
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I thanked Mr. LaPierre in person Saturday for their commitment to helping out us hunters. LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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Pa.Frank is spot on. I belong to all of these organizations. Whether I agree with them on every point is immaterial. We all agree in principal. What efforts are being made to coordinate? | |||
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The NRA presence at DSC was great. I ran into Wayne Lapierre at the bar at the Omni. He was great guy - took time out, gave me his business card and told me to give him and the NRA on any gun and hunting issues. If the NRA steps up for hunters and becomes its main public advocate this will allow NRA to expand its membership and give hunters real political capital. Lets see if there is a NRA presence at SCI but it was great to see the full court presence at DSC. I think NRA was holding meetings at the Omni for its own select members. Mike | |||
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There was a very significant NRA presence at SCI last year. I suspect that the NRA is looking at trying to become hunting advocates as well to enlarge their base... Not a bad thing, until they start behaving like the NRA did a few decades ago (selling part of their constituency down the river in the belief that one could be seen as reasonable and that if they gave on one issue, the antis would go away...) Of course, that means a lot of their grass roots folks (who are more self defense based, at least around here) are going to have to realize that calling hunters "Fudds" is not helpful. Don't get me wrong, I support the NRA, but they are a lot like SCI (which I also support) in that certain acts really have me scratching my head going "why?" I am just not sure if monolithic is necessarily good after sitting thru the SOTU speech. | |||
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NRA's involvement in hunting issues isn't new, it's just being publicized more. A hunting policy position was created in ILA back in 2004 or so and that office has engaged the individual state and federal lobbyists heavily on hunting issues. Case in point: the various "right to hunt initiatives" across the nation. I spent 3 years as an NRA lobbyist and remain close with many of my former colleagues- I can promise you that those guys and girls do their best for ALL of us at every opportunity. There's no hidden agenda other than to protect our second amendment and hunting rights. | |||
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The NRA needs to get the two extreme wings of gunowners. Fudds and the tacticool kids, talking and understanding EVERYBODY that owns a gun for whatever reason needs to stick together. When skeet shooters, hunters, etc become vocal, ardent defenders of 30 round magazines, you may see the tacticool kids worrying about ivory bans. United we have a chance, but selling other gun owners out because you don't enjoy their particular gun or shooting sport is a losing proposition for all. Hunting: Exercising dominion over creation at 2800 fps. | |||
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Gentlemen, Comments about what the NRA "needs to do" get my blood boiling. The NRA is what we all see in the mirror every morning, not some tall building near the Beltway. The strength and effectiveness of the NRA comes from the grassroots activism of its' members--volunteers who believe in the right of a free people to own firearms for every legal purpose. If you aren't a member, if you aren't writing letters to publications, if you aren't volunteering to work in recruiting and information booths at various events, if you aren't politically active in your community, if you aren't setting a good citizenship example for your neighborhood, if you don't volunteer to help mentor youth or women in the shooting sports, and if you can't get past some mistakes the organization made nearly 40 years ago, then gentlemen, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM, NOT THE SOLUTION. If you want to belong to an organization that only does things you agree with, then start your own. Standing on the sidelines and throwing rocks reminds me of the famous quote from Theodore Roosevelt about the man in the arena, the gist of which is that if you are not involved, you have no right to criticize. Tim Ferrall NRA Benefactor Member | |||
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The NRA has always had a presence at SCI that I'm aware of. You just need to look for them. That is where I signed up my three sons as life members a few years ago. As Tim says above, get involved, sign up, become a dues paying member and volunteer. Criticism is not the answer. We seem to have more than our fair share of that here on AR as to SCI, DSC, the NRA etc. etc. etc. If you don't like it, get involved and change it. Personally I would like to see all of the criticism of SCI funneled and channeled into getting SCI and DSC to WORK TOGETHER, especially on the governmental, legal and capital hill issues where both the NRA and SCI have competent legal teams in place and are fighting in court on many issues relevant to all of us sportsmen and firearms owners. I don't believe that DSC has a similar legal team that I'm aware of, so what good does having and attending a feel good convention do for all of you if you are not also fighting in court, like the NRA and SCI does, for the very issues that need to be addressed? I have attended the SCI legal continuing legal education seminar every single year since its inception and they discuss the very legal issues that they are fighting for, for all of us. | |||
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Sorry, but when the NRA is silent, for example, like they were in the early stages of Heller, and has to be dragged into the debate instead of leading the charge, it is very legitimate to tell the NRA leadership what they 'need to do. I bitch about the NRA, but then again, I fund them too. So I have paid for the privilege.  Hunting: Exercising dominion over creation at 2800 fps. | |||
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I believe you are wrong. The NRA carries the weight that they do in Washington because they know their way around inside the beltway. I would bet my gun collection, that while they may have been publicly silent, there was a LOT going on behind closed doors during Heller. If your gonna play in D.C. you gotta play by their rules, you can't come off like some "rube". It's a chess match in Washington, a lot of thought and planning has to go into every move, and whether we like it or not, you cannot always advertise it. NRA Benefactor. Life is tough... It's even tougher when you're stupid... John Wayne | |||
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Pa.Frank, Thanks for the backup. There has been many a time when the grassroots folks in California have been asked to remain silent on pending legislation in order to not stir up the antis. As for the NRA presence at SCI, it might be limited, since the NRA is seriously involved in putting on the Great American Outdoor Show that starts next weekend in Harrisburg PA. Best regards, Tim | |||
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To the best of my knowledg, the NRA has had a booth and a presence at every SCI show since at least when Charlton Heston served as the NRA's president. Harlon Carter used to attend the SCI shows and sometimes held press conferences at them. I believe Wayne LaPierre has attended every SCI show since obtaining his present office. Bill Quimby | |||
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I see Wayne there every year it seems like. I definitely saw him at DSC. | |||
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Wayne was at the SCI show, I had a chance to talk to him briefly. | |||
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