I had a couple of hunt cancellations as folks were getting jittery about the unfolding of Ukraine. What are your thoughts?

That is an overreaction if your destination is Africa.

quote:

Originally posted by Balule:
That is an overreaction if your destination is Africa.

Exactly!

We are traveling to Europe all the time and no cause for any bother.

Africa is several times safer!

Only way I would cx a hunt is if the war was in the country I was going to hunt in.

This is my concern.

When you have a bully threating to use nuclear weapons many people are not going to travel. Pandemics and inflation are one thing but men are not going to leave their families and go on long distance hunting trips when there is a threat of world war. If they are required to travel for work it is different. I do not pay much attention to warnings that the state department puts out but war is a concern. Imagine how many and how long flights would be cancelled if Putin used a nuke.

If Putin uses a Nuke we will have more to worry about than hunting in exotic lands.

quote:

Originally posted by crshelton:
If Putin uses a Nuke we will have more to worry about than hunting in exotic lands.

Agreed, however…. the likelihood of this happening, while possible, is extremely unlikely.

The United States has an exceptional nuclear deterrent that no opposing world leader can disregard, and that is our fleet of nuclear ballistic missile submarines. IIRC, each ‘boomer’ has 16 missile silos, each loaded with a ballistic missile that carries multiple nuclear warheads. I may be off, but 128 nuclear warheads per sub seems to be what I remember. Nobody, except our military, knows exactly where they are, but every opponent of the USA; Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, knows one or more of of these subs is somewhere within range of them, ready to send destruction not from another continent, but possibly from very nearby. It is a deterrent that no opposing government can ignore. The Kremlin certainly understands that there is very likely a US Boomer sitting quietly somewhere nearby like the Persian gulf or Mediterranean sea or somewhere off Scandinavia, with a response so close that they’d be a glowing ember before any ICBM could reach its target. Same goes for China, they’re certainly aware that somewhere to the east of the Chinese coast lie one or more boomers ready to respond if necessary, from very close by. That’s a deterrent to a nuclear attack no opponent can ignore.

Yes, it’s a horrible possibility, but a very unlikely one. Thankfully. With that in mind, I’m waiting to see what potential late opportunities pop up in Africa because of this turmoil, and I have a couple people looking for specific hunts I’d be interested in. If the right deal presents itself, I’m going on safari.

I have a PH friend who had 130 hunting days booked for 2022 with Ukrainians. Guess what?

quote:

Originally posted by crshelton:
If Putin uses a Nuke we will have more to worry about than hunting in exotic lands.

BINGO!!

It is a concern to me.. I backed out of a fishing trip to Brazil THIS WEEK because of the world situation..

I'm not worried about my safety and nuclear war isn't even worth worrying over but... all I need is a major cyberattack on the airlines or power grid at home to strand me in Brazil or my kids without power for who knows how long. or for the airlines to start cancelling flights everywhere due to fuel concerns or technical problems..

So many ways they could cause major disruptions - I just worry about the family...

It was enough of concern for me to bail out and not go right now..

quote:

Originally posted by larryshores:
I have a PH friend who had 130 hunting days booked for 2022 with Ukrainians. Guess what?

I was booked for October of this year. I might be one of his clients!

quote:

Originally posted by larryshores:
I have a PH friend who had 130 hunting days booked for 2022 with Ukrainians. Guess what?

They decided to hunt Russians instead?

quote:

Originally posted by larryshores:
I have a PH friend who had 130 hunting days booked for 2022 with Ukrainians. Guess what?

That sucks Larry.

I would also think Russian clients on the bubble as well?

If you are Ukrainian/Russian/Belarusian that will be a problem but to blame the war in Ukraine if you live in any other country in the world is just an excuse for something else.

Probably every single year there's a "good" argument to not travel internationally. I went to Zim twice last year. Could I have been stuck there due to Covid testing? Yup.

Taking my 15yr old daughter to the East Cape this year, looking forward to having a spectacular time.

quote:

Originally posted by Baker458:
Probably every single year there's a "good" argument to not travel internationally. I went to Zim twice last year. Could I have been stuck there due to Covid testing? Yup.

Taking my 15yr old daughter to the East Cape this year, looking forward to having a spectacular time.

I agree and good attitude!

Hi guys.
Yes, the situation in Ukraine is still difficult, but another 1-1.5 months and we will drive the Russians out of our land, and Putin's inner circle will destroy itself!
So let's go hunting in the fall!

We were hoping it won’t take that long!

Best of luck defending your country from the invaders.

quote:

Originally posted by Ukr_Hunt_Expeditions:
Hi guys.
Yes, the situation in Ukraine is still difficult, but another 1-1.5 months and we will drive the Russians out of our land, and Putin's inner circle will destroy itself!
So let's go hunting in the fall!

Wishing you and your country the best.

quote:

Originally posted by Ukr_Hunt_Expeditions:
Hi guys.
Yes, the situation in Ukraine is still difficult, but another 1-1.5 months and we will drive the Russians out of our land, and Putin's inner circle will destroy itself!
So let's go hunting in the fall!

Good luck and aim straight

Thank you all for your support!

Cancelling a hunt thousands of miles away from a conflict is nuts.
Not choosing to hunt in Ukraine whilst it’s on I understand but anywhere else I wouldn’t worry about it. In these modern times if you have a credit card and passport you can get out of somewhere fast if needs be!

The rich Russian and Ukrainian hunters I doubt will be going anywhere for a while.

Besides the other places I would not go even before these latest hostilities (e.g., Iran, North Korea, Afghanistan, Venezuela, etc.), I would not travel these days to Poland, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Moldova, Romania or Slovakia - too much volatility in transportation.

Or obviously Russia, Ukraine or Belarus, for obvious reasons.

Much of eastern Europe is unfortunately out of bounds these days owing to the actions of the new Hitler, the murderer of women and children, the psychopath, Vladimir Putin.

Anywhere else, I will go if I decide that I want to go there.

Life itself is a gamble, and the house always wins.
_____________________________________

Best of luck to our Ukrainian brothers and sisters. I wish our leaders had the testicular fortitude to help them more.

quote:

Originally posted by Ukr_Hunt_Expeditions:
Hi guys.
Yes, the situation in Ukraine is still difficult, but another 1-1.5 months and we will drive the Russians out of our land, and Putin's inner circle will destroy itself!
So let's go hunting in the fall!

Are the trophy fees on Russians like most European hunting, with higher prices for Colonels and Generals.

Sounds like ya'll are getting a few Generals in the salt...

quote:

Originally posted by crshelton:
If Putin uses a Nuke we will have more to worry about than hunting in exotic lands.

But being in exotic lands will not make the situation better for most people.

quote:

Originally posted by Ukr_Hunt_Expeditions:
Hi guys.
Yes, the situation in Ukraine is still difficult, but another 1-1.5 months and we will drive the Russians out of our land, and Putin's inner circle will destroy itself!
So let's go hunting in the fall!

Go Get 'Em!!! Good Luck!!!

Reminds me of when friends asked why I would go to Africa when there was an ebola outbreak a couple of thousand miles away.

now there is a free program (meeting, transfer, accommodation, food, weapons, cartridges.) to shoot all Russians in military uniform (without a limit) . The state pays a bonus to those who can take away from the Russians and transfer to the Ukrainian army a military helicopter or fighter (in technical good condition):
helicopter - $500,000;
fighter-$1,000,000.

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by Ukr_Hunt_Expeditions:
Hi guys.
Yes, the situation in Ukraine is still difficult, but another 1-1.5 months and we will drive the Russians out of our land, and Putin's inner circle will destroy itself!
So let's go hunting in the fall!

Are the trophy fees on Russians like most European hunting, with higher prices for Colonels and Generals.

Sounds like ya'll are getting a few Generals in the salt...

quote:

Originally posted by Ukr_Hunt_Expeditions:
now there is a free program (meeting, transfer, accommodation, food, weapons, cartridges.) to shoot all Russians in military uniform (without a limit) . The state pays a bonus to those who can take away from the Russians and transfer to the Ukrainian army a military helicopter or fighter (in technical good condition):
helicopter - $500,000;
fighter-$1,000,000.

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:


Are the trophy fees on Russians like most European hunting, with higher prices for Colonels and Generals.

Sounds like ya'll are getting a few Generals in the salt...

Sounds like the perfect time and place for a cull hunt, there are clearly more Russians than is good for the habitat.

I've never seen this much of the world united in wishing anybody Good Hunting.

We are booked for Mexico, Czeck Republic, and maybe Zambia. Not changing plans as long as the planes fly.

quote:

Originally posted by fairgame:
I had a couple of hunt cancellations as folks were getting jittery about the unfolding of Ukraine. What are your thoughts?