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Is it legal to hunt from a machan for lion in Tanzania? I've seen it done on video and read of it being done. I read something recently that made me think it was illegal from the wording. Also how common is spotlighting for lion and leopard in Tanzania? I know it happens, but I'm hardly "in the know" on this one. Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | ||
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I don't have a clue on use of machans or blinds, except that it's commonly done. I am very certain that it is illegal to hunt at night (with or without a light) on government concessions in TZ. Hopefully someone who carries a PH license in Tanzania can chime in and educate us? | |||
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I see nothing in the Conservation Act that would suggest it is illegal to use machans or blinds. Like Craig mentioned it is definitely illegal to use artificial light as all hunting is prohibited after sunset. The only case were artificial light might be used is in the case of PAC conducted by the Game Office. Edited: I take that back, I found this wording in section 54(1)a "(ii) any poison, bat, poisoned bait, poisoned weapon, stakes, net, gin, trap, set gun, pitfall, missile, explosives, ball ammunition, snare, hide, fence or enclosure" It is a common practice and the Conservation Act could have been revised, but I'm sure we will get a more definitive answer from one of the Professionals. | |||
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I understand the tourist hunting regulations are just about to be replaced with new ones so it's probably not the best of times to be talking about the old ones...... I'll bet the best man to comment on the new ones is Bwanamich. | |||
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NOTHING has ever been mentioned in any of the TZ Wildlife Acts, including the new 2009 version, referring to the use of blinds or machans. Main reason, technically its illegal to "bait" for anything in TZ. As posted by tazn2007, baiting is STILL listed as illegal in the 2009 ACT, that has yet to be officially put in place. Although its an acceptable practice throughout the whole of the country, as it should be. In fact, it should be completely legal in my opinion. | |||
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Don'tcha just wish that one single African country could simply issue a sensible set of game laws. | |||
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Not gonna happen over here in opposite world | |||
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The reference I was reading didn't come out and say it was illegal. It just seemed from the wording that it was a possibility. I should have worded the spotlighting part of my question better. I know it's illegal and I know it happens in Tanzania. What I'm asking is how common is the practice? Are we talking a few isolated incidents or is that a rampant problem? Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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Brett - I would HOPE the spot-lighting issue in TZ is very isolated! I for one, would NEVER do something like that in TZ, period!!! The several times I have hunted cats in TZ, it was never even remotely needed anyway. | |||
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I have hunted lion in Tanzania, both from a machan and a ground blind, and also by tracking. These methods are common. Everyone uses them, and everyone has done so for as long as lion have been hunted. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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The 2009 ACT has yet to be OFFICIALLY enacted! But as with baiting for cats, croc hunting within 500 meters of water, is an accepted method, since it was "accidentally", left out from the get go. Not sure how that one slipped by, but it is Africa. | |||
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Steve, Can you offer a hunt for a nice blond and busty tourist in Tanzania? What are the trophy fees and nightly rates likely to be? Andrew McLaren | |||
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As stated in an earlier thread somewhere on AR, there is a written circular from the Directorate of Wildlife allowing the use of bait for lion, hyena, leopard and crocodile to the now defunct Tanzainia Wildlife Corporation which allowed this. TAWICO used to be the Gov parastatal that run the entire hunting industry in Tz for a while. That circular still stands as the "regulation" that makes this hunting method legal. "...Them, they were Giants!" J.A. Hunter describing the early explorers and settlers of East Africa hunting is not about the killing but about the chase of the hunt.... Ortega Y Gasset | |||
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Interesting! That's something I have not seen, but glad to hear it. Thanks Bwana! | |||
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For those not inclined to wade thru the PDF, below are some of the points that I found interesting having hunted Tanzania and/or are topics that come up routinely on AR (noting Bwanamich's post regarding "baiting"): Pages 48 & 49 contain the following: Regarding the age and sex of a species: This one is interesting (page 40): Regarding the shooting of an animal in self-defense:
…and Problem Animals:
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Andrew, theoretically it is possible. Many of these tourists sport spectacular manes continuing under their arms and down their legs. Spectacular, if you like such things... | |||
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