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11 mm Mauser (black powder cartridge) in Africa?
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Looking for anecdotal evidence of the use of this fine old 19th-century black powder cartridge in the hunting fields of Africa, then or now.


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I am restoring a Sauer Cape Gun 11mm/16ga specifically to take to Africa next year. The 11mm is not much different than a black powder 45-70. In my book "The Shamba Raiders", the author talks of using this caliber on elephant but finding it lacking. I would think it's fine for bushveld conditions on PG and leopard...with a load of buckshot in the other bbl of course!


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Alf: I asked because I just obtained a nice specimen of a Mauser M71 single shot myself. I have HDS cases and dies on the way.


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Alf: Thanks. I was aware that the groove diameter was considerably larger on the earlier M71, and mine seems to be about .456. I was thinking of trying paper patched bullets, but clearly would benefit from having the specs from a Cerrosafe cast of the chamber and throat.
I'd love to hear about the use of the 11mm on African game.


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Quite a few of them arround- mainly cape doubles or drillings
 
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What would the ballistics of one of 11 mm be in a bolt action M71?

How common are the M71 repeaters today, and what sort of prices for a "reasonable" condition one be?

A nice bit of history.


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John: "Cartridges of the World" says the military spec load was a 386-grain PP lead bullet at 1425 fps. There are a number of 71/84 repeaters around right now, but many are in absolutely dreadful shape. I found the M71 in probably 70 percent condition with excellent bore for about $400 US.


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