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Very interesting!

Agree, interesting!

Would love to see our ancestors hunting and killing an elephant, or one of their ancestors, a half a million years ago with the weapons our ancestors had available at the time. The elephants' weapons have remained essentially the same.

I always thought nearly half a million year old animals were all buried very very deep being turned into oil. Dunno.

I always have my doubts about all these years they report.

Especially about us humans.

That’s very interesting. Imagine wandering among those giants with nothing more than a spear.

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Originally posted by DLS:
That’s very interesting. Imagine wandering among those giants with nothing more than a spear.

I bet they had no spears then.

Interesting.

The presence of stone tools, though, shows only that they may have BUTCHERED the elephant, but not that they 'hunted' the animal.

I have always questioned the killing off of mega fauna by early man.
Kill smaller animals with a pit, sure. Kill injured ones, OK. But to kill mammoths, rhino and all with stone tipped spears????
The hair it'self would act like body armor against a chipped stone edge, tangling the point/head before it got any penetration to speak of.

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Originally posted by theback40:
I have always questioned the killing off of mega fauna by early man.
Kill smaller animals with a pit, sure. Kill injured ones, OK. But to kill mammoths, rhino and all with stone tipped spears????
The hair it'self would act like body armor against a chipped stone edge, tangling the point/head before it got any penetration to speak of.

Not true at all. A knapped stone point is sharper than a scalpel and there’s plenty of evidence of large prey taken with them.

I do question the 500,000 year claim though. 50,000 years old is more like it.

Agreed. We did cause the extinction of the mammoth. But it was not half a million years ago!

Hard to conceive of a system of hunting elephants with stones and wooden pointed spears. No problem with soft skinned beasts being hunted hundreds of thousands of years ago by Homo erectus, the evidence is overwhelming, but elephants?
Until the invention of the Aterian tanged stone weapons which could be attached to a spear by men of our kind 70,000 years ago I don't think people routinely tackled thick-skinned game. However I am often wrong! It is easy to underestimate the ingenuity and courage of ancient people.

Chips of obsidion have been shown to be sharper then a scalpel. But a point is not all one straight edge. Could it be? Sure, but to get through the hair and fat of a most likely moving mamoth on a regular basis to wipe them out as some claim? I doubt it. The natives of africa with steel spears were never a big threat to elephants.

I have read that humans may have finished the mammoths off, but that rapid climate change had reduced their preferred habitat and greatly diminished their numbers. Their preferred habitat was colder than humans of the time could endure.