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11 February 2008, 22:04
L. David Keith
Federal's "new" bullet
After discovering Federal Cartridge Co., had decided to drop my favorite load (.280 cal-160gr-Nosler Accubond) due to slow sales, I immediately contacted them. My guess is ATK (parent owner of Federal) doesn't own Nosler. I believe they do own Speer however. 2 + 2 makes more sense to me: sell yer own stuff! But the good news may be a new bullet: the Trophy Bonded Tipped. Here's the official release:
Federal Premium® Introduces Trophy Bonded® Tip,
the New Standard in Big Game Bullets

ANOKA, Minn. – January 1, 2008 – Federal Premium® has combined the latest in bullet technology with proven performance to bring big game hunters the Trophy Bonded® Tip. This new offering is built on the heralded Trophy Bonded® Bear Claw® platform and adds numerous features for a substantial increase in performance—available summer 2008.

The first and most noticeable addition is a neon, translucent polymer tip. This is coupled with a boat-tail design for flat trajectory and improved accuracy. Because it’s built on the Bear Claw’s proven platform, the new Trophy Tip has the jacket bonded to the core for high weight retention and a solid copper shank to crush bone. “We wanted to really raise the bar for bullet performance with the new Trophy Bonded Tip,†said project lead Larry Head. “So we worked very hard to develop a bullet that had it all. The result is an accurate, flat-shooting and tough bullet that meets all the demands of today’s big game hunter.â€

The Trophy Tip is unique in that it combines several different bullet technologies in one projectile. Another improvement to this bullet is exterior skiving on the nickel-plated bullet that provides optimum expansion at a variety of ranges. The load also features a nickel plated case and bullet for easy extraction and corrosion protection. Available in a full-line of offerings for 2008.

Available in 2008:

Part No. Description
P270TT1 270 Win 130-gr Trophy Tip
P270WSMTT1 270 WSM 130-gr Trophy Tip
P270WBTT1 270 Weatherby 130-gr Trophy Tip
P280TT1 280 Rem 160-gr Trophy Tip
P7RTT1 7mm Rem Mag 160-gr Trophy Tip
P7WSMTT1 7mm WSM 160-gr Trophy Tip
P7WBTT1 7mm Weatherby 160-gr Trophy Tip

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P308TT2 308 Win 165-gr Trophy Tip
P308TT1 308 Win 180-gr Trophy Tip
P3006TT2 30-06 Spring 165-gr Trophy Tip
P3006TT1 30-06 Spring 180-gr Trophy Tip
P300WTT1 300 Win Mag 180-gr Trophy Tip
P300WSMTT1 300 WSM 180-gr Trophy Tip
P300HTT1 300 H&H 180-gr Trophy Tip
P300WBTT1 300 Weatherby 180-gr Trophy Tip

For more information on Trophy Tip, or the rest of the Federal Premium lineup, visit www.federalpremium.com.


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11 February 2008, 23:36
mho
photo from the press release:



- mike


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12 February 2008, 03:06
Will
Finally, the fabled silver bullet. Smiler


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12 February 2008, 03:12
Macifej
All that plating certainly adds to the BF coefficient. (Bling Factor)
12 February 2008, 03:21
L. David Keith
I suspect it will be kick ass and take names bullet. We'll see Smiler


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http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333
Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com
NRA Benefactor
DSC Professional Member
SCI Member
RMEF Life Member
NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor
NAHC Life Member
Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer
Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262
Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142
Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007
16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409
Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311
Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added
http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941
10 days in the Stormberg Mountains
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322
Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232

"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson

Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running......

"If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you."
12 February 2008, 03:27
dogcat
Similar to the Barnes MRX.
12 February 2008, 03:29
Sergeant_Sabre
My initial reaction was to think "Damn, that's an ugly round..."
12 February 2008, 03:57
Peter
Hmmm, will it work on vampires? One shot one kill?
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12 February 2008, 12:09
86thecat
Nickel plated bullet- how will that affect barrel wear?
12 February 2008, 12:18
jetdrvr
And you can bet it'll cost at least ten per cent more than the nearest equivalent bullet from another manufacturer...
12 February 2008, 12:41
mho
quote:
Originally posted by 86thecat:
Nickel plated bullet- how will that affect barrel wear?


I don't know if there are other manufacturers doing this, but RWS/Brenneke have been nickel plating their TIG bullets for years. I can't tell you if it has an effect on barrel wear, but at least it is a well known technique.

- mike


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12 February 2008, 16:35
Blair338/378
quote:
Originally posted by L. David Keith:
After discovering Federal Cartridge Co., had decided to drop my favorite load (.280 cal-160gr-Nosler Accubond) due to slow sales, I immediately contacted them. My guess is ATK (parent owner of Federal) doesn't own Nosler. I believe they do own Speer however. 2 + 2 makes more sense to me: sell yer own stuff! But the good news may be a new bullet: the Trophy Bonded Tipped. Here's the official release:
Federal Premium® Introduces Trophy Bonded® Tip,
the New Standard in Big Game Bullets

ANOKA, Minn. – January 1, 2008 – Federal Premium® has combined the latest in bullet technology with proven performance to bring big game hunters the Trophy Bonded® Tip. This new offering is built on the heralded Trophy Bonded® Bear Claw® platform and adds numerous features for a substantial increase in performance—available summer 2008.

The first and most noticeable addition is a neon, translucent polymer tip. This is coupled with a boat-tail design for flat trajectory and improved accuracy. Because it’s built on the Bear Claw’s proven platform, the new Trophy Tip has the jacket bonded to the core for high weight retention and a solid copper shank to crush bone. “We wanted to really raise the bar for bullet performance with the new Trophy Bonded Tip,†said project lead Larry Head. “So we worked very hard to develop a bullet that had it all. The result is an accurate, flat-shooting and tough bullet that meets all the demands of today’s big game hunter.â€

The Trophy Tip is unique in that it combines several different bullet technologies in one projectile. Another improvement to this bullet is exterior skiving on the nickel-plated bullet that provides optimum expansion at a variety of ranges. The load also features a nickel plated case and bullet for easy extraction and corrosion protection. Available in a full-line of offerings for 2008.

Available in 2008:

Part No. Description
P270TT1 270 Win 130-gr Trophy Tip
P270WSMTT1 270 WSM 130-gr Trophy Tip
P270WBTT1 270 Weatherby 130-gr Trophy Tip
P280TT1 280 Rem 160-gr Trophy Tip
P7RTT1 7mm Rem Mag 160-gr Trophy Tip
P7WSMTT1 7mm WSM 160-gr Trophy Tip
P7WBTT1 7mm Weatherby 160-gr Trophy Tip

-more-
P308TT2 308 Win 165-gr Trophy Tip
P308TT1 308 Win 180-gr Trophy Tip
P3006TT2 30-06 Spring 165-gr Trophy Tip
P3006TT1 30-06 Spring 180-gr Trophy Tip
P300WTT1 300 Win Mag 180-gr Trophy Tip
P300WSMTT1 300 WSM 180-gr Trophy Tip
P300HTT1 300 H&H 180-gr Trophy Tip
P300WBTT1 300 Weatherby 180-gr Trophy Tip

For more information on Trophy Tip, or the rest of the Federal Premium lineup, visit www.federalpremium.com.


I like tipped bullets, they give you the best of both worlds, easy set up and in this case a mechanical stop for expansion thumb

Some 338's would be handy though Big Grin


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Blair.

12 February 2008, 23:00
N E 450 No2
In the 308 my wife and I have used the old Federal factory 165 Trophy Bonded Beaclaw quite a bit.
It is my favorite bullet in the 308.
We have taken game from bobcat, coyote and turkeys, deer, impala, to big pigs, zebra, wildebest, honey badger and heyena.

In all cases it has performed perfectlt giving good kills and because the bullet is bonded deep penetration AND it does not mess up the hide on the small stuff.

I have used the 200 gr Federal factory TB [again the old style] in my 300 Win Mag on 2 elk and a couple of red fox, again with perfect performance.

If this new bullet performes on game as well as the old bullet it just might be the best bullet avialable, all things considered.


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12 February 2008, 23:39
Andy
Nickel is very brittle for a bullet jacket.

The old RWS nickel solids split like crazy.

The new Trophy Bonded Speer uses gilding metal rather than pure copper like the original Jack Carter design, and has substantilly reduced frontal area and weight retention in the 458 caliber I tested.

Main advantage to this new design is that with a polycarbon tip you can have a large HP that is still streamlined. Which should help increase long range expansion.

I was very happy w the original HE 165 grain .308 Federal TBBC. My brother made 5 one shot kills with it on PG including zebra and kudu.

Andy
13 February 2008, 00:02
maddenwh
quote:
I like tipped bullets, they give you the best of both worlds, easy set up and in this case a mechanical stop for expansion thumb

Some 338's would be handy though Big Grin



I agree. How can they call it a "big game" bullet and stop short of the 338?


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13 February 2008, 00:47
Greg R
I've used them in a .300 Win. Mag. on elk and in my .300 WSM on a sheep hunt (no sheep). They were very accurate in all the guns I've tried them in. I shot the elk on the shoulder at a step or two shy of 300 yards. The bullet exited the off shoulder and destroyed everything in its wake. I look forward to testing them in Africa this season.


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28 January 2018, 12:15
BNagel
Ten years and -- I'm still taking ol' Greg's advice. Sure do miss him, and will think of the Rodriguez family working loads up with 160-grain .284 TBT's when I rebarrel to 7mm Weatherby Mag. (He was still going strong until March 2013.) His advice on TSX's accounted for success with Pamela's .270 Wby Mag at Diedrick's African Safaris and with my .300 H&H at Blaauwkrantz Safaris in 2007.


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29 January 2018, 02:10
BNagel
quote:
Originally posted by L. David Keith:The good news may be a new bullet: the Trophy Bonded Tip. Here's the official release:
Federal Premium® Introduces Trophy Bonded® Tip,
the New Standard in Big Game Bullets

ANOKA, Minn. “ January 1, 2008 “ Federal Premium® has combined the latest in bullet technology with proven performance to bring big game hunters the Trophy Bonded® Tip. This new offering is built on the heralded Trophy Bonded® Bear Claw® platform and adds numerous features for a substantial increase in performance.

The first and most noticeable addition is a neon, translucent polymer tip. This is coupled with a boat-tail design for flat trajectory and improved accuracy. Because it's built on the Bear Claw's proven platform, the new Trophy Tip has the jacket bonded to the core for high weight retention and a solid copper shank to crush bone. "We wanted to really raise the bar for bullet performance with the new Trophy Bonded Tip," said project lead Larry Head. So we worked very hard to develop a bullet that had it all. The result is an accurate, flat-shooting and tough bullet that meets all the demands of todays big game hunter."

The Trophy Tip is unique in that it combines several different bullet technologies in one projectile. Another improvement to this bullet is exterior skiving on the nickel-plated bullet that provides optimum expansion at a variety of ranges. The load also features a nickel plated case and bullet for easy extraction and corrosion protection. Available in a full-line of offerings for 2008.

Available in 2008:

P7WBTT1 7mm Weatherby 160-gr Trophy Tip

For more information on Trophy Tip, or the rest of the Federal Premium lineup, visit www.federalpremium.com.


Cleaned up for my own reference. (Thanks to L. David Keith!)


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