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What do you call the home-made axes used in the bush? The ones made from leaf springs and a limb from a particular tree.

Any idea where I can purchase one here in the states? I think it would look nice in my office. Thanks in advance for your guidance.


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Demo.

As for where to get one in the US, got me.


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Thanks Mike. Someone will know.


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Try here http://www.africansportingcreations.com/


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Thanks Wannago. Nice site but they don't have the axe I'm looking for.


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Try here http://www.hemingwaygallery.com/

They have a bunch of them. Just call and tell them what you're looking for.
 
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Reese,

I wouldn't be surprised if someone on AR would be willig to purchase one of those axes that was a real working tool for you while they were on safari this year. They could have it thrown in with their trophies and then send it to you after they got there trophies back. Heck! I'll do it if I can as I try to pick one up from each area that I hunt anyway.

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Thanks Mark. I could kick myself for not buying one off my tracker in Tanzania. I thought about it and then blew it off.

A used one would be better than a new one.

I sent an email to Hemingway Gallery. If I hear back I'll let you know.


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I believe they call the as a 'kaleba' if I am not mistaken some of the guys from zim can chime in but I believe that is right. Possibly someone could bring one to you this season or at the convention?? just a thought.
 
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I tried to buy one from a guard on one ranch I hunted in Zim many years ago. I started off offering $10.00 and gave up when I got to $75.00 and he still wouldn't sell it. That amount of money would have equaled about 6 months of pay for him. I guess it was really important to him. I've only heard it referred to as a "chopper".

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I got one from my tracker in Zambia for $20, which now hangs on the wall and is a great conversation piece. You should have seen the Customs guys going over it when I arrived back in the States. I think they were afraid of bugs still alive in the wood.



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Where I am in Mozambique,it is called a dema,

Either shona, or part thereof, we use them too make roads , skin hippo, trim toenails (unfortunately the toes fell off) all things relative in the bush,


Seeing as I am on my way up there again on Saturday, I sup;pouse I can drag a couple back and have them at Dallas or Reno in January ?

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What's the Ndebele word for it...I can't remember
 
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I have no idea, but we saw a few of them, plus the ever-popular pangas.

 
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Just did a search on EBay for "african axe" Lots of them offered from $35 and up.
 
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"Just did a search on EBay for "african axe" Lots of them offered from $35 and up."

Yes, they have quite a few but none like what I am looking for. The axes I am referring to are like the bottom axe in Charles Helms' photo.

I think Mark Young is going to be able to help me out on this. Kwan - Walter Enslin, thank you for your kind offer.

Thanks to all for your help.

Russell


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the one i have hanging in my office we bought from a guy in zambia who lived in a village about 25k away from camp. he had heard a safari was happening so he made the thing, walked the 25 K to camp, we bought it for 5000 Quechua (about 1.50 then) he grinned from ear to ear and walked the 25 k back
 
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Great story Butch.


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I bought a dozen of them while driving through Zimbabwe.

I gave them to the Trackers and camp staff, except for 2 that I brought back for me.

They are not for sale.


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I have one of each type, the one like the bottom one on the photo posted above, and the one with the blade crossways used for stripping bark, from logs, and hollowing out dug-outs. The dug-out one was given to me by my PH, and and the tomahawk type I bought from a guy who was building a fence around our skinning shed on the Luangwa River in the Upper Lupandi, for 500 Quatcha, about .75 cents American at that time! I wouldn't take anything for mine, they bring back real memories!


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I asked the PH in Zim last year for one at the start of the trip. I gave the tracker $20 or $30 for it when they came up with one a few days latter. Also brought back one of those gourd pipes they use in the valley. Both nice decorations for the trophy room.

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I don't recall a specific name being assigned, in English anyway. I bought three and brought one back with me. But in case it was confiscated I left the others to come back with my trophies.I was not even questioned and it sits near my easy chair in my living room. Can you imagine the look on a home invasion culprit when that baby comes at them.
I tried using it on the tree in the photo and nearly broke my back. Tried to use the entire back to swing it like a double bit falling axe. Should use it like a hatchet instead.
By the way, the transmission fluid gallon jug on the jeep was being used by the trackers for their drinking water.



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The warden at Chete, when I was there in 2001, had a most interesting cleft forehead, where I am told, one of his wives had planted a demo years before.
 
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We bought the demo off of our trackers. They were the ones they used to hack up our animals, chop limbs out of the way, carry for defense while tracking.

It was really cool to get to purchase them and the PH insisted they'd happily get new ones for what we were paying them.

Mine still sits above my gun safe but I'll mount it on the wall with my trophies someday.


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The term I heard them called in Zim was a

batanga axe

I brought one back with me in 2002. They gave it to me.


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I got mine last year in Zim. Mark (PH) ask me if had one and told him I had tried to get one in prior years. He had one of the staff make me one and they used it on the Safari for hacking up my Elephant and Hippo along with other chores and I was given it at the end of the Safari and I just put in my Tuff Pack. I think I gave them $25. It is in my office along with my Zulu Spear and other like items. I am planning on getting two "gun racks" made and display the ax and spear in that maner.
 
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I got mine last year in Zim. Mark (PH) ask me if had one and told him I had tried to get one in prior years. He had one of the staff make me one and they used it on the Safari for hacking up my Elephant and Hippo along with other chores and I was given it at the end of the Safari and I just put in my Tuff Pack. I think I gave them $25. It is in my office along with my Zulu Spear and other like items. I am planning on getting two "gun racks" made and display the ax and spear in that maner.


In the hands of a seasoned expert it can fell a medium sized tree and dissect
an elephant in a relatively short time frame. (A favourite poacher's tool).
Also, these "axes" can be considered as a "two in one"(a sharp knock on the spike
and the blade is out leaving the haft to be used as a club).
 
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In the hands of a seasoned expert it can fell a medium sized tree and dissect
an elephant in a relatively short time frame. (A favourite poacher's tool).
Also, these "axes" can be considered as a "two in one"(a sharp knock on the spike
and the blade is out leaving the haft to be used as a club).


It is a "3" in one tool! The blade can also be placed in the end of a pole, and used for a post hole digger to build a grass fence, or the wall frame for a hut, or to dig a wart hog out of his hole, and kill him with the digger as a spear!

I brought mine back in my rifle hard case, with no problem from customs! I also on another occasion brought home a Masai three piece spear, but when I got it home, the blade was missing, only the wooden handle, and rear iron shaft were in the crate! Somebody, evidently needed it more than I did!


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I have never had any trouble with custom I have a few spears and a sword. That was a trick to get packed. A friend of mine here has one ax but i dont know if h wants to sell it. it new not used I will ask him. I can some times get them here but shipping is HIGH HIGH and sometime my guys there are not in much of a hurry to ship them poli poli no hurry in africa
 
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...demo, tshapu, or zembe for Axe.
 
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Here's a couple more examples of the Zimbabwean axes:
 
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The name Kentemo comes to mind.


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I brought mine back in the gun case. No problems with customs.

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Here is how I did it.

On my trip to North Cameroon (Dec08-Jan09) I talked to my PH and said that after the hunt I would like to have the hunting and camp crew turn out with their axes, knives etc that they would be willing to sell to me.

At the appropriate time everyone turned up and I mean everyone. Everyone had something to sell.

I purchased 2 large axes (similar to the photos in this thread), one of which was the one used in the hunting car throughout the hunt and is on our video clearing brush for photos of the Giant Eland, and Roan.

I purchased 2 smaller axes used around camp for maintenance and for chopping up game.

In this area of Cameroon, every male carries a big ol 2 sided straight knife everywhere. They are very large and would give any texan you care to name, penis envy. I purchased 7 of these including our hunting car driver's, my 2 trackers and our porters knives. I gave a couple to friends and put the others in a shadow box with the sheaths.

They gave me the 3 poachers spear points that we captured the morning I missed a Giant Eland. The spear points are in another shadow box with snares we captured in the rain forest on my Bongo hunt from June 2008.

I also purchased from one of the guys on anti poaching patrol his homemade bow, quiver and 14 home made arrows. I have them on the wall. Extremely cool to me anyway.

Everything came back in my wifes and my luggage including the bow which I had to cut in half to make it fit.

I enjoy these memory enhancers far more than the stuff not from the hunting and camp crew.

I would not buy this stuff as decorative bobbles. Just my opinion.

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