This has popped up on a another forum here on A-R. I'll warn you it is extremely graphic.

Spearing

Most of it is groups of people spearing plains game, buffalo, elephant and hippo but some other images like tripping zebra and a lot of human death at the end.

Comments? I was quite disturbed. Watching the elephant pull spears out of its head repeatedly and the buff and hippo try to fight back was not pretty.

I personally could not do this even though I am a bow hunter.

Do a search it's been posted twice.

Oops, did not see it.

Dollars to donuts that this happens more often than one can imagine. Shit, I was rooting for the animals to get revenge. These poachers will never get their just rewards.

Those are not poachers. Those people are subsistance hunters. How many of them, do you think, have the financial means to: 1)buy a gun 2)buy ammo 3)purchase a hunting permit? These are images from the 60's and 70's and this is the way the people have hunted for thousands of years. Keep every thing in perspective. This is one of the few ways these people could obtain animal protein. In many African countries the situation is not much better today.
So lets not let these graphic scenes, obviously released by animal rights people, to the internet, have the effect they are intended to have... on us too! I am sure there are those out there who would find our methods as reprehensible as those depicted. I just hope we don't start finding clips of kill scenes in our hunting videos being shown with popular music being released by the bunny huggers to the internet.

Geronimo

Ann, I agree it is strong footage. Saw it a few weeks ago here. It is an interesting exercise to imagine these are my own ancestors killing mastodons with clovis-tipped atlatl darts. Sometimes we forget how far most of us are removed from the struggle for life that shaped our species. Its actually one reason that I believe hunting is a fundamentally honest human activity, even if not pretty.

Geronomo, and Bill/Oregon, your two posts are the best views I've seen in years of the media driven, PC world we live in today, and you both saw through their attempt to sway the unschooled. These two explanations of what is seen on this film are true, as far as the nitives killing animals,by spear, and the chopper driveing, what I think is a rogue bull that had the sorted out, to a ranger.

What is repugnant is Animal rights people throwing in the mass murder of humans, by other humans of different tribes , or religeons, and poachers the driveing with a cable between two bakkis, with the reality of poor people feeding their families,with the only means they have. Only animal rights sick-os would consider them the same. They know they are not the same, but they don't want their contributors to know it!

The people on a mass hunt for meat is one thing, and is legitament, also the chopper driveing an elephant to a ranger who shoots him, is likely, as I said above, a rougue bull that had to be put down, and you don't expect the ARAs to tell you the reason for that killing. They simply combine as much blood, and gore together,throwing in ethnic cleansing, for viewing, and call it all the same! Viewed by the city dummies who have never seen an animal larger than the RATs in their slums, or any place other than a zoo, and who are the ones who donate the money for the ARAs to spend on world junkets, and big houses, and cars!

I would dearly love for all the ARAs to have to spend about a year in a village with those people, and eat what they eat, and obtain it by no better means than what they have, or starve! I think you would have a different person coming out the other end of that year!

I saw it the same way, subsistence hunters along with other media thrown in. How they tie the killing of all those unfortunate humans with the hunting is rediculous. Many folks feel that elephants are endangered and don't realize they are still being hunted or doing irrepairable damage to some of the habitat they live in. Culling and of course hunting are the most effective means of keeping this population in check.

We may be sympathetic as to the plight of poor people world-wide but subsistance killing is not hunting. Along with poaching, subsistance killing will wipe out all animals within the immediate area. That, combined with the loss of habitat due to the overpopulation of the area will guarantee that the animals will be wiped out.

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subsistance killing will wipe out all animals

And what are they supposed to do mate? Starve?

Ann i would like to participate in this primitive form of hunting ,i believe it would be an intersting experience.Have these wariors a special permit or they are poachers.Juan