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06 September 2018, 11:35
A.Dahlgren
Jason Hairston dead
Jason, the founder of hunting brand Kuiu have died suddenly.




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06 September 2018, 19:15
BaxterB
I believe it was suicide and that CTE may have been a contributing factor. Very sad all the way around.
06 September 2018, 20:42
Use Enough Gun
Unbelievable! Sad day for the hunting community! Frowner
06 September 2018, 21:19
DLS
Shot himself at home with his 2 young children present.
06 September 2018, 21:26
jorge
quote:
Originally posted by DLS:
Shot himself at home with his 2 young children present.


source, please?


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06 September 2018, 21:52
DuggaBoye
sad news
nice guy

press already blaming CTE from football


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07 September 2018, 01:57
DLS
quote:
Originally posted by jorge:
quote:
Originally posted by DLS:
Shot himself at home with his 2 young children present.


source, please?


My source? I got a call yesterday right after lunch from a guy who knew him, calling to ask if I’d heard. I live less than an hour from his home and business and am friends with several guys who knew him. By the end of yesterday afternoon, three of them had called or texted me to tell me what he’d done. They all had the same story. Out of respect for him and his family, I won’t share any details beyond what I stated above.

It’s a horrible tragedy. Especially for his kids, wife and parents.
07 September 2018, 02:04
Use Enough Gun
It's been on the national news as well (not the details). It did state that he had been suffering from the symptoms of CTE.
07 September 2018, 08:08
lavaca
Sympathy for the family. Why share hearsay details that do no one any good? It's enough to offer condolences and say no more.
07 September 2018, 08:16
Rockdoc
Very sad. RIP. Condolences to family, friends and colleagues.


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07 September 2018, 09:14
Steve416
RIP Jason.
07 September 2018, 09:35
DLS
quote:
Originally posted by lavaca:
Sympathy for the family. Why share hearsay details that do no one any good? It's enough to offer condolences and say no more.


KUIU now has it on their website that he took his own life at home. The family is asking that any remembrances be sent to a concussion and CTE research program at Boston University.
07 September 2018, 19:30
tomahawker
Wow, at’s terrible. I’m feeling for those kids.
07 September 2018, 19:38
Saeed
quote:
Originally posted by tomahawker:
Wow, at’s terrible. I’m feeling for those kids.


Awful thing to do when you have a family!


Condolences to them.


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07 September 2018, 19:43
bwanajay
A tragedy, for the entire family.
07 September 2018, 20:12
bluefish
Anyone who would do that in front of young children loses my sympathy. Just screwed them up permanently.
07 September 2018, 20:23
BaxterB
quote:
Originally posted by bluefish:
Anyone who would do that in front of young children loses my sympathy. Just screwed them up permanently.


You don’t know it was “in front” of his kids. Also, if you can’t understand how bad his mental situation was by the extreme nature of what he did, you need to take a while and keep thinking. Try to put yourself in the mental state where killing yourself is the most logical, reasonable, best thing to do. Can’t do it? Then don’t make comments about losing sympathy, because that’s EXACTLY where his mind was. A few weeks ago a childhood friend made the same decision, 16 years ago my uncle did the same. People under duress are operating from a place neither you nor I can understand. And yes, they deserve our sympathies.
07 September 2018, 21:15
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True that...


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07 September 2018, 23:37
bluefish
quote:
Originally posted by BaxterB:
quote:
Originally posted by bluefish:
Anyone who would do that in front of young children loses my sympathy. Just screwed them up permanently.


You don’t know it was “in front” of his kids. Also, if you can’t understand how bad his mental situation was by the extreme nature of what he did, you need to take a while and keep thinking. Try to put yourself in the mental state where killing yourself is the most logical, reasonable, best thing to do. Can’t do it? Then don’t make comments about losing sympathy, because that’s EXACTLY where his mind was. A few weeks ago a childhood friend made the same decision, 16 years ago my uncle did the same. People under duress are operating from a place neither you nor I can understand. And yes, they deserve our sympathies.


You're right Baxter we are not in his position so we don't know. First, I was responding to what DLS posted above. Second, I am as entitled to my opinion as anyone else is and I think it is incredibly horrible, if true, to take such action where the young are impacted that way. Mr. Hairston's pain may be over but that of his children has just begun and their pain is his doing so yeah, my sympathy tends to evaporate. You don't like it that's fine. We can agree to have different takes on the matter.
07 September 2018, 23:44
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07 September 2018, 23:52
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OF COURSE The LIBERAL MEDIA JUMPS ON IT for POLITICAL GAIN!!! Headlines Read TRUMPS hunting Partner Dead!!!
07 September 2018, 23:56
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quote:
Originally posted by bluefish:
Anyone who would do that in front of young children loses my sympathy. Just screwed them up permanently.



BLAME The Disease NOT the Person!!!
08 September 2018, 01:31
Use Enough Gun
I don't see anything on the official KUIU website that says anything about what he did, in front of who and/or where he did it or anything else. Am I missing something? I would be very surprised if any of that information would be found there. All it says is, along with Jason's picture (1971-2018) the following: "THE VISIONARY We are saddened to announce the tragic passing of KUIU founder Jason Hairston. The family has requested that donations be made to support CTE-related research at the Boston University Concussion Legacy Foundation in lieu of sending flowers" That is all it says, and nothing more.
08 September 2018, 01:47
BaxterB
quote:
Originally posted by Use Enough Gun:
I don't see anything on the official KUIU website that says anything about what, in front of who and/or where he did it. Am I missing something? I would be surprised if any of that information would be found there. All it says is, along with Jason's picture (1971-2018): "THE VISIONARY We are saddened to announce the tragic passing of KUIU founder Jason Hairston. The family has requested that donations be made to support CTE-related research at the Boston University Concussion Legacy Foundation in lieu of sending flowers" That is all it says, and nothing more.



It’s a couple pages deeper:

https://www.kuiu.com/about-us.html


Frankly, I’m glad they are upfront about this. CTE and especially depression (whether or not related to CTE) are BIG DAMN DEALS, and these tragic stories remind us NO ONE is beyond their reach.
08 September 2018, 01:49
Use Enough Gun
Thanks BaxterB. I see it now, and yes, you are so right about being up front about CTE. It IS a big deal.
08 September 2018, 05:55
DuggaBoye
I met this young man twice.
(In non-clinical settings.)
He was affable and pleasant.

My brief encounters are not the basis of my upcoming statement.

CTE has become the whipping boy for almost all depression in male athletes; in the press and other venues of late.

I know nothing of Jason clinically, perhaps CTE was /is a significant factor.

In general, I find fault with the current extrapolation of CTE as the major source of depressions in male athletes and as the causative factor for their depression and suicides.

Clinically and scientifically this has not been conclusively proven.

Depression is at the very least highly complex.
There are definite genetic links as well as environmental and injury links.

While CTE is a worthy subject of study with respect to depression.
Suicide, particularly in successful, athletic males is a remarkably complex issue.

I will leave his diagnosis those who cared for him in his medical/psychiatric needs as to the degree/role CTE played in this unfortunate outcome.

My commentary, in my first post,
reflected the general knee jerk reaction we have seen of late when a male athlete chooses suicide over life.

Many generations of severely traumatized male brains have passed with what statistically appear to have been lower suicide rates.

Suicide has in the past few decades become more socially accepted and even promoted.
Communication and publication of suicides has become a daily ritual in the media.

None of this diminishes the loss of Jason to his family, his friends and most particularly , himself.

If suicide had a simplistic solution we would utilize that solution.
More poignantly, if depression had a simple solution, we would utilize that as well.

My condolences and sorrow for his family's loss,
as well as my hope to find more successful solutions.


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08 September 2018, 06:29
Saeed
quote:
Originally posted by DuggaBoye:
I met this young man twice.
(In non-clinical settings.)
He was affable and pleasant.

My brief encounters are not the basis of my upcoming statement.

CTE has become the whipping boy for almost all depression in male athletes; in the press and other venues of late.

I know nothing of Jason clinically, perhaps CTE was /is a significant factor.

In general, I find fault with the current extrapolation of CTE as the major source of depressions in male athletes and as the causative factor for their depression and suicides.

Clinically and scientifically this has not been conclusively proven.

Depression is at the very least highly complex.
There are definite genetic links as well as environmental and injury links.

While CTE is a worthy subject of study with respect to depression.
Suicide, particularly in successful, athletic males is a remarkably complex issue.

I will leave his diagnosis those who cared for him in his medical/psychiatric needs as to the degree/role CTE played in this unfortunate outcome.

My commentary, in my first post,
reflected the general knee jerk reaction we have seen of late when a male athlete chooses suicide over life.

Many generations of severely traumatized male brains have passed with what statistically appear to have been lower suicide rates.

Suicide has in the past few decades become more socially accepted and even promoted.
Communication and publication of suicides has become a daily ritual in the media.

None of this diminishes the loss of Jason to his family, his friends and most particularly , himself.

If suicide had a simplistic solution we would utilize that solution.
More poignantly, if depression had a simple solution, we would utilize that as well.

My condolences and sorrow for his family's loss,
as well as my hope to find more successful solutions.



Thank you for your explanation.


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08 September 2018, 06:51
TexKD
I am disappointed for his loss for his family and friends and especially in this manner.

But I also completely agree with Dugga that whether is it global warming or CTE there is way too much make it fit analysis these days where they already know that they know what happened.
08 September 2018, 07:26
larryshores
I feel really bad for the family, particularly the kids. It is hard to imagine them not being scared by this .

One never really knows what is going on in someone’s head. Sometimes we are shocked to find out. Most were certainly shocked by this.

RIP Jason. Whatever haunted you will haunt you no more.
08 September 2018, 10:56
DLS
quote:
Originally posted by larryshores:
I feel really bad for the family, particularly the kids. It is hard to imagine them not being scared by this .

One never really knows what is going on in someone’s head. Sometimes we are shocked to find out. Most were certainly shocked by this.

RIP Jason. Whatever haunted you will haunt you no more.



Well stated.
08 September 2018, 19:10
mt Al
quote:
Originally posted by DuggaBoye:
In general, I find fault with the current extrapolation of CTE as the major source of depressions in male athletes


You could replace extrapolation with exploitation. Certainly not all, but some political extremists put this (CTE) arrow in their quiver of things used to not let boys be boys, not allow "violent" sports, man hate, etc.

Thank you for your explanation, especially given the context.
08 September 2018, 22:46
AnotherAZWriter
quote:
Originally posted by bluefish:
quote:
Originally posted by BaxterB:
quote:
Originally posted by bluefish:
Anyone who would do that in front of young children loses my sympathy. Just screwed them up permanently.


You don’t know it was “in front” of his kids. Also, if you can’t understand how bad his mental situation was by the extreme nature of what he did, you need to take a while and keep thinking. Try to put yourself in the mental state where killing yourself is the most logical, reasonable, best thing to do. Can’t do it? Then don’t make comments about losing sympathy, because that’s EXACTLY where his mind was. A few weeks ago a childhood friend made the same decision, 16 years ago my uncle did the same. People under duress are operating from a place neither you nor I can understand. And yes, they deserve our sympathies.


You're right Baxter we are not in his position so we don't know. First, I was responding to what DLS posted above. Second, I am as entitled to my opinion as anyone else is and I think it is incredibly horrible, if true, to take such action where the young are impacted that way. Mr. Hairston's pain may be over but that of his children has just begun and their pain is his doing so yeah, my sympathy tends to evaporate. You don't like it that's fine. We can agree to have different takes on the matter.


Bluefish:

That was my thoughts exactly; we are all entitled to our opinion, and my opinion is that if you want to kill yourself run your car into a bridge embankment.

Justifying suicide and the pain it causes to family members is no different than saying a mass murder isn't guilty due to mental illness. Again, just my opinion but I am certainly entitled to it.


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08 September 2018, 23:10
Use Enough Gun
In the end, there will only be ONE judge for Jason to face. And only God, the ultimate judge, completely understands and knows the heart and the intent of those who take their own lives. We opine and state our beliefs and opinions, but they really don't matter in the eternal scheme of things. The best that we can do is to support and love the loved ones, friends and associates who are going through the tragedy and have to carry on.
09 September 2018, 00:00
Michael Robinson
I can’t imagine what would drive a man to do such a thing and in such a manner.

What an awful thing, even to contemplate. My deepest sympathy and condolences to Jason’s family, especially his wife and children.


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09 September 2018, 03:14
A.Dahlgren
https://people.com/sports/jaso...peaks-out-about-cte/


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09 September 2018, 04:05
Michael Robinson
Thanks for sharing that link, Anton. Seems to explain a lot. Brain injuries are perhaps the worst. They rob us of what it is to be human.


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09 September 2018, 09:10
larryshores
I never met the man but I cannot get this out of my mind. In particular, what these kids are going through. It is unimaginable.
09 September 2018, 10:32
Scott King
I found the Will Smith movie, " Concussion" very disturbing and upsetting.
I'm not a football fan, nor really a sports fan but from my far removed position I really appreciate the ability or athleticism of these "stars/ heroes" and I feel very badly that they suffer.
Additionally, being a father now has altered my perception and opinion of everything, so being so upset or troubled that you take your life despite being a parent and with your babies just down stairs I find horrifying.
I'm certainly not judging or condemning, I just think it's tragic.
10 September 2018, 09:51
cable68
Other stories stated Jason himself claimed he had CTE symptoms before his passing.


"I played linebacker, and the way I played the game, I led with my head. I played the way they tell us not to play now," Hairston told CNBC in 2016. "I have all the symptoms of CTE."


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10 September 2018, 21:17
ledvm
May God rest his soul and comfort his family.

I will only add a couple of things:

1) I was not in his shoes thus can't relate

2) But, as a father, my #1 duty in life is to take care of my kids. I would endure anything to spare my children pain or suffering. Can't imagine doing such a thing to them. If I knew I had the disease, which he apparently did, I would have sought help for no other reason than to spare my kids.


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