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Not about African hunting, but you all are the ones that shoto the heavy for caliber bullets most often I would, so please indulge and forgive.  Bell shot heavy for caliber bullets in his 275 Rigby. And some say that the "African formula" was a bullet of .3 or higher SD at a velocity of around 2250 to 2300. Rather than loading my 35 whelen AI up to the 2500-2600fps range with the 250's, wouldn't it be just as great a performer on game if I went up to the 275's and dropped the velocity down to 2300fps which should be easy and low pressure in my 26" barreled rifle? I know it would affect down range trajectory, but I dont' plan on taking shots at 200+yds. Your guys thoughts? Red | ||
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250 gr NorthForks worked great for me up to and including eland in my Whelen, but I wondered how the 270 gr NF would be. I imagine it would have shot through where I recovered 250's. I don't think you could go wrong with them. | |||
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Dago, That would be avery effective large game killer. It is basically a 9,3x62 minus 8/1000 of an inch Mike Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Dago- yes- if you are a biltong hunter and want to minimise meat damage. or you are loading solids for use on elephant! Otherwise...stick to "normal" factory bullet weights, so you can always pick up a box if you need to. | |||
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 No normal factory loads for a whelen improved! And the ammo is never cheap. I figure now that I will finish load development for a 250g Northfork bullet, then will try to work something up for the 270g northforks. when I win the drawing later today this is one of the rifles that is going with me to Africa, gonna use it on the non-buffalos. Red | |||
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Dago I'm leaving for the Limpopo River in 2 weeks for plains game. I'm using a .376 Steyr with a 300 grn Partition at 2380 fps. I'll send you a postcard  Elmo | |||
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Yes and no, A for instance is the 225 gr. Nolser in a 35 Whelen will out penitrate a Speer 275 gr. everytime..same with a light monolithic HP...bullet construction plays a big part... I love the 350 gr. Woodleigh in a .375, and the 450 gr. Woodleigh in a 416 Rem., but for pure penitration a 300 gr. monolithic or a 400 gr. monolithic will penitrate just as well for all practical purposes.. The heavy for caliber theory works only with conventional bullets..and I like the 175 gr. 7x57 bullets for elk, even in premium bullets, they give you an advantage on angling shots, and they shoot within 3"s on trajectory and I can wiggle off or on that much!  Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Ray, I know you have used the Northfork bullets extensively. What do you think about the 270g 35cal bullet that they put out? that is the one I was considering. I hvae out there now the 225g siera game kings which I heard were designed fro the whelen, some 250 hornadys (I think) for development and some 250 Northforks. then I have a few 275 barnes out there that my stepfather bought 15+ years ago when he had the rifle built. Red | |||
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I have not used the Northforks in a Whelen, but I have used them in the 338, 375, 9.3x62, 416, 404 and 470 on game...I have never had a Northfork bullet fail, not even in the least..They are the most consistent bullets I have ever used...I am sure the 270 gr. 35 cal. would lay low about any animal on this planet perhaps short of an elephant..The 250 Northfork would be an excellent elk, Eland, Zebra or alaskan bear load...I promise you that you will be completely satisfied... Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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