Sorry guys. I tried searching various combinations.

I use a .338 WM with reloaded ammo, and my friend wants to bring his 6.5 STW. Can anyone point me to a thread or give me a rundown as to how we have to package this stuff to get it in the country, how much we are allowed to bring and whether or not a wildcat is even allowed. His rifle says 6.5 STW on the barrel, so that probably complicates things more. We are doing some night varmint hunting while there, so we need enough ammo.

I'm also bringing my muzzle loader, so I'm not sure about regs for powder and primers/caps either.

Any help or links would be greatly appreciated. I leave in a month! Woo hoo!

I don't think the metallic cartridges will be a problem as long as they are in boxes with individual slots.

I don't know if you can take black powder or it's substitutes on the airplane you may need to buy it there. There must be some way to do it as you read stories about guys doing it. I would check with your booking agent and whoever is selling your flight tickets as these folks know the rules.....try Gracy Travel in San Antonio, TX

Sheldon

I would think that the first resource for this should
be your outfitter.

DB Bill is correct in stating that no black powder or
pyrodex will be allowed on your flight.

Namibia is superb....

Who is your outfitter?

What will you be hunting?

Hi guys.

I am hunting with Vaughan Fulton. I leave on the 4th of April and return on the 17th via SAA from Atlanta. I used Falcon Travel.

We will be hunting 1x1 as recommended by this board and will be hunting Mountain Zebra, Kudu, Gemsbok and Springbok, plus various other critters that come by as desired, and even a night hunt for varmints.

I plan to take the Zebra, and a second gemsbok and Springbok with my muzzle loader. I will be looking for world record size Gemsbok and Springbok if my outfitter thinks they are available. I plan to carry both rifles with me and use the muzzle if the opportunity comes for a world class animal. I'll worry about the rifle kills second. I don't think it's that hard to get world record status with a muzzle loader, but perhaps some of you will educate me to the contrary. I have no idea what has been shot with the muzzle so far.

Does the headstamp on the bottom of the cases need to match the brand of the box they are in? I will be basically buying ammo and throwing it away in favor of reloads, and since Winchester .338 ammo tends to only come in highend combos here, buying several boxes just for the box is silly. I'd much rather buy cheap federals and use the box for my winchester stamped reloads. If my bullets get taken away though, I could be up sh!t's creek.

Thanks guys.

Sheldon,



We, my wife and I, hunted with Vaughan last September and had a GREAT time. Vaughans a down to earth guy who is just fun to hunt with, your in good hands.



As to your ammo problems. I reload also, and we took some of my handloads for my wifes 270. I had them in factory ammo boxes inside plastic pencil boxes we bought at wal-mart, 4 for a dollar. The way I read Detla/SAA guide lines if your bags are soft sided, ours is, then your ammo should be in factory boxes inside a hard case. You can go to Deltas web page and look all this up. But anyway, right or wrong thats the way we did it. We didn't have any problems with the police at Cape Town or Windhoek. In fact none of them even looked at the ammo. The Windhoek officer did ask how much ammo we had, both going and returning, but didn't look at it. They well ask you who you'll be hunting with and his address. I have Vaughans if you need it.



If I can help let me know. If you'd like to talk, e-mail me and I'll send you my phone number.

Hey Mark.



One question I have is, how much ammo are we allowed to take??



Thanks!

SAA allows 11 pound of ammo total per hunter, to the best of my knowledge. Midway USA sells cardboard ammo boxes with styrofoam inserts very cheap. What I usually do is get a few of these and print up lables on my computer to put on the boxes. That should do everything you need without the added expense of throwing away ammo. You can make your label match the barrel stamp indicating caliber, and not really worry about headstampings. I've never has SAP tear open a "factory" box (where I used the label I printed to seal the box end as well) to check headstamps.

We took 80 rounds per rifle, my 30-06 and her 270, for a total of 160 rounds. But in both Cape Town and Windhoek they put all the paper work in my name. So based on that I'd say your safe with 180 rounds per hunter, but I'm no means an expert. I've only done this once. You may want to e-mail Vaughan. vfulton@africaonline.com.na

Did you say you'd be hunting Zebra? I'm still kicking myself for not hunting them while we were there.

Thanks guys for all the great information.

I will do the amo box thing from Midway, except they don't ship to Canada, so I will get my partner to order us several boxes and ship me some. Since we will be hunting varmints at night, I would think we will go through a fair bit of ammo.

Yes I will be taking a Mountain Zebra. I want a big stallion and will likely take it with my muzzle loader. It is a custom with a 30" barrel and will hold groups well enough to kill a zebra at 200 yards without trouble if I have a steady rest. I may take one of the Savage smokeless muzzleloaders if I can get one in time to work up a load.

HHMag:

I can only find boxes that fit up to 30-06 size cases. Will these hold my .338 WM cases? I am assuming the length is the most imprtant and should be okay, it's just the thickness of the brass that concerns me. What are you storing in these boxes? Do they realy come 25 pieces for $10?? That's very cool.

First and foremost don't kill everything, save some for me. I am hunting with Vaughan in Sept for Leopard and some assorted plains game such a very large Kudu etc.. I hunted in Namibia in 02 and had no trouble regarding hand loaded rounds. I used 338 hand loads and transported them in plastic boxes which hold 50 rds. I also had my drilling using 9.3X72R - 16 Ga and those rounds were in 20 rd plastic containers. The 16 ga buck were in cardboard sleves 5 rds per. I purchases the #6 shot (for birds) after I arrive in Windhoek. This fall I am planning on the 338 and am taking 375 H & H which will also use hand loaded rounds. As to the BP you will have to purchase that in Namabia, I believe Vaughan could help you with that with some notice also the caps. It appears you are using the new 209 caps which could be a problem finding in Namibia. I would also find out about taking smokeless powder. Other than all that have fun.

Sheldon,

The last time I checked Namibia was allowing 80 rounds maximum per weapon at entry. The 5 Kg/11 pounds is just about 100 rounds of .375 H&H ammo by the way.

Your '06 ammo boxes won't admit belted magnum brass: .470" head size versus the .532" head (actually is is the case body that matters but these numbers illustrate the idea). Comparing the factory box brand to the head stamp brand is a level of checking I would not expect to see in Africa.

Vaughan is a really good guy. I would get on to him for the current details. You better hurry up on the ML records, Jim Shockey is traveling all over now a days and whacking them too.

jim dodd

Die.

Thanks for the info. I'll confirm with Vaughan to see if I can just bring 20 round ammo boxes. I have the 50 and 100 round boxes, but I want to split them up in my luggae just in case.

I'll also arrange the BP with Vaughan. I'm sure he must be able to get 209 Shotgun primers..

Jim:

Does that mean if I have 2 weapons I can bring twice as much ammo?

I know Jim Shockey is after a bunch. I can't let him have all the fun. I figure if he can do it, so I can. I don't have the sponsorships and funds he has to play with, but I'd like to try anyway. It would be cool to have two Canadians with some world record animals in the ML category. Right now I'm shooting a custom ML and custom pure lead swaged bullets with poly tips and boat tails. I may plan to bring Noslers and a Knight or new Savage, just in case I am successful. Who knows what might happen then? I have heard that record African game are not given much attention compared to NA game. Oh well, first things first. Vaughan might have his work cut out for him.

Midway's CB-10 sized box is advertised for 338 winmag and 35 wheelen. These are the biggest I see them for. A box of 25 boxes with trays is listed at $9.98US. Hope that helps! Let me know off post and I can order them for you.
Rob

Sheldon,

I hunted in Namibia in '95, and back then they didn't have a limit on rounds brought in or on rifles. I would ask Vaughan what the current rules are, they do change from time to time.

Also you can visit the NAPHA website for information.

http://www.natron.net/napha/english/index.html

I looked at the 2004 edition of Huntinamibia, but they didn't speak to your question. They do have two articles on ML hunting, written by Jim Shockey -- you'd best hurry up!

jim

I went to Namibia in Sept. 2003. I took 60 rounds of 338-06 in factory boxes in a locked pistol case. They checked the serial number on my rifle in Windhoek going and coming. Never looked at the ammo. Asked me how many rounds I had is all. Pack you ammo as securely as possible. It must be in your checked bag which will get beat to hell by the airlines. I think SAA bagage handlers try to see how much damage they can do sometime. Hunt hard - shoot to kill.

Huntingcat:

I am bringing a Pelican double gun case. Can I put my ammo in there with my rifle or must it travel in my regular luggage? In Canada, we are not allowed to have the ammo stored with the rifle, but it may be diferent in other countries. I have to fly to Minneapolis, then Atlanta, and then on to SA before heading to Windhoek. I would hate to get into trouble on the way. I planned on splitting up my ammo just in case one bag gets lost, but inside the case was just a thoughgt. At the very least, I'd like to put my optics in the gun case with my two guns, but that would be a very expensive disaster if they lose that one. There should be room, and this case has wheels. Not sure about weight though. The limits seem crazy low for weight allowed, especially when my flight is listed as Standard to SA and I think that means 30 kg total!

SAA (as well as most others) do not allow weapons and ammo together. Store them in their own box (lockable if you have soft luggage) in your bags. Splitting them is a good idea. Most every time I travel SAA, my gun case weighs about 85 or 90 pounds. They generally don't even weigh it, but put it directly on the security conveyor. I may have been lucky in this, but 19 trips in three years have all been the same for me.

Thanks HHMag.

That sounds good. I'll put both rifles, my optics and whatever else I can cram into my Pelican case, and then bring the rest in a duffle with a locakble ammo container. Unfortunately since we're only allowed two bags, I won't be able to split the ammo. I guess I'll be able to bring my camera equipment inside a carry-on, so at least that will be safe with me.