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When are the canned lions done?

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02 December 2015, 20:17
Big Wonderful Wyoming
When are the canned lions done?
What is the cut off date for canned lion hunting?
02 December 2015, 22:20
Oryxhunter1983
There isn't a cut off date, all that's changed is now...Phasa members aren't supposed to participate in them. You don't have to be a Phasa member to be a PH in RSA, so it really doesn't change anything for the consumer.





03 December 2015, 00:47
Big Wonderful Wyoming
Ok, was thinking prices may drop. Doesn't appear as such.
03 December 2015, 03:37
Poyntman
I agree BWW...
I was talking to a friend today. I do think the price will come down..supply and demand.
There may well be a "Fire Sale" in the next couple of years I think if the market dries up meaning I believe
1) it's way less "politically correct" since the Cecil deal
2) less PH's participating in the practice which means less PH's selling/marketing them
3) the regulators here in the U.S. or Europe close the door on the import and the bottom will drop out.
07 December 2015, 08:44
Big Wonderful Wyoming
If all the Euros shut the door it will leave NZ, the US and the Russians.

The Russians probably shoot the "lions share". So we'll se how things go.

Australia will be the next to fall, I am betting within the first 6 months of 2016. They get assinine over bear imports, I can't imagine how crazy it would be to do a lion.

Friends of mine had 18 months and $6500 importing 2 blackbear skins from Canada to Canberra.
07 December 2015, 11:16
INTREPID SAFARIS
Guys we can have another 10 page discussion on if it is right wrong morally correct ethical and and and... bottom line is ones the achieved that goal they will simply move the goal post and target another species. This is not good for hunting at all!!


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07 December 2015, 12:05
Barry Groulx
No, it doesn't reallychange anything, but more hunters should support the associations like PHASA and SOAZ and NAPHA in countries where they exist, because there will generally be higher standards. If a PH doesn't want to support the association by becoming a member, that should tell us all something straight away.
quote:
Originally posted by Oryxhunter1983:
There isn't a cut off date, all that's changed is now...Phasa members aren't supposed to participate in them. You don't have to be a Phasa member to be a PH in RSA, so it really doesn't change anything for the consumer.

07 December 2015, 17:58
Oryxhunter1983
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Barry Groulx:
If a PH doesn't want to support the association by becoming a member, that should tell us all something straight away.[QUOTE]

I totally disagree. I can tell you, having been to the meetings for both Phas/Napha.

These organizations have their own inter-political issues at times between their members, and often personal agendas are moved forward. Choosing not to be in one of these organizations doesn't mean anything...that's like me accusing a hunter of being bad bc they aren't a SCI/DSC/HSC/NRA member.

It's ridiculous to think that because someone pays dues to some organization that it means they are of some higher regard.





07 December 2015, 18:42
dogcat
It will end when demand stops...
Same for poaching of rhinos...
07 December 2015, 18:44
Big Wonderful Wyoming
quote:
Originally posted by INTREPID SAFARIS:
Guys we can have another 10 page discussion on if it is right wrong morally correct ethical and and and... bottom line is ones the achieved that goal they will simply move the goal post and target another species. This is not good for hunting at all!!


Very true!

I would think the pygmy antelope would be on the next target list, that and giraffe.
07 December 2015, 20:22
Frostbit
quote:
Originally posted by Big Wonderful Wyoming:

Australia will be the next to fall,


I thought Australia banned Lion imports last year.

Cheers
Jim


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