What's happening with Angola hunting?

Nothing was last report I got. Anyone hear different?

http://allafrica.com/stories/201407250520.html



This was from July 24, 2014.


Angola: Legalization of Hunting Preserves Biodiversity - Expert

Luanda — The biologists, Maria Pimentel said on Thursday, in Luanda, that the regulation of animal hunting preserves the biodiversity and contributes to the effort of animal restocking in progress.

Speaking to Angop on impact f animal hunting in the biodiversity, the specialists said that hunting is one of the ancient activity of humanity and currently may be practised as sport or for subsistence.

"No matter what kind of hunting, it helps in preservation of species, since it is regulated as it is done in various countries in Europe, United States of America and Canada ", he said.

The interlocutor said that exist a handbook of the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCNSSC), where it recognizes the hunting activity and its contribution as tools for conservation of species.

Just mind boggling why most of the World refuses to listen to reason.

The Angolan government is far more concerned with oil than tourism, hunting, or their million+ living in poverty.

TIA

I've got a Portuguese friend who lives and works up there and he tells me there's some pretty good old school style hunting up there and I'm currently helping him with a translation of a book he's written about it, however I understand that the commercial tourist trophy hunting is fairly limited to say the very least.

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Originally posted by fairgame:
Just mind boggling why most of the World refuses to listen to reason.

Most of the world should stop sticking its "do-gooders" nose out of Africa!

We will be much happier if that would happen!

I've been waiting for years, nay, decades, with baited breath, for Angola to re-open. I hope to be able to hunt there before I die.

Perhaps a fishing trip will have to suffice.

What happened to Roger Whittal's efforts to open this country?

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Originally posted by lavaca:

I hope to be able to hunt there before I die.

Well you could, but your wish might happen while on your hunt.

The problem is, there are not a lot of game animals left. The locals are living off them and there is no end to the food shortage in the country. The government could care less.

As far as the fishing is concerned, check out the Skeleton Coast from Torra Bay up to Cape Fria. Fantastic coastal, inshore and offshore fishing from December through April. Very cost effective and you will not find a more unspoiled area to visit.

I know a few of the large mother ship operations that have fished well north into Angola. Great fishing as long as you don't have to refuel or resupply. It's $1,500 a day, but the fishing is difficult to beat.

http://www.huntingreport.com/h..._details.cfm?id=2786



Will Angola Ever Re-open for Safari Hunting?

Published: February - 2012

In Angola, I reported about efforts to reopen safari hunting in this destination back in February 2010 when safari operator Roger Whittall announced he would be conducting safaris there later that year. (See Article 2395 in our online database.) Those safaris were postponed in August when Whittall was unable to get authorities to finalize the necessary paperwork. (See Article 2493.) Since then, all has been quiet.
Sources at the African Hunting Show in Atlanta this January told me there has been slow progress since. First, Angolan officials have been de-mining parts of the country in the south, using former South African army advisors. Also, a wildlife management model has been accepted by the council of administers but is yet to be signed by the president. I am told that the Angolans are beginning to understand the concept of foreigners coming into the country for tourism and they are interested in reopening hunting. That's the good news.

The bad news is that there are still no game laws, no quota systems and no concession laws. Also, there are no laws allowing hunters or safari operators to temporarily import firearms. And there is still no way to clear customs in Angola without flying into the capitol of Luanda. Luanda is on the coast in northern Angola, while all the hunting areas would be in southwestern Angola along the borders of Namibia and Zambia. The trip from Luanda to the hunting areas adds another 3,000 miles of extra travel, making it very costly for operators to fly in materials and clients.

Will Angola ever reopen to hunting? There is real hope that it will, but not any time soon. In the meantime, I hear the game is there lion, buffalo, elephant, leopard and more.

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The bad news is that there are still no game laws, no quota systems and no concession laws.

And 10 million landmines and a few thousand tons of live ordnance unaccounted for. Sorta makes mambas, zebra cobras and disgruntled natives a little less scary...

I would worry bout stepping a mine.

Mike

Well, that's certainly a risk. I'd want to know what efforts have been made to pick them up. It's not a unique issue to Angola.

Other countries have seemed to deal with the issue, although I suspect that across the Continent, recordkeeping about where mines were laid is less than stellar.

Lavaca, we are on the same page. Been watching to see if Roger could get something going. I was ready to jump on board if it happens. Maybe a little risky but for someone that's hunted Mexico for over 20 years, I've been told I'm crazy many times!!

i think there are a lot fewer land mines laying around Mexico than there are in Angola. hell, there are still small areas of Moz where the danger exists...

seven:

You are a braver man than I. Even I won't set foot in Mexico these days and I was born within a mile of the border.

My darling bride works for Big Oil and there is a decent probability that we may move to Angola for a year or two in the foreseeable future. I would love to know if there is any hunting for residents there. Anybody here ever live in Luanda that would know?? That would make the decision easier about going or not. Or, maybe just cheap flights to Namibia??

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Originally posted by lavaca:
seven:

You are a braver man than I. Even I won't set foot in Mexico these days and I was born within a mile of the border.

Why not Mexico?

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Originally posted by lavaca:
seven:

You are a braver man than I. Even I won't set foot in Mexico these days and I was born within a mile of the border.

Why not Mexico?

My father feels the same. He has been hunting your area for 10 years or so for desert mule deer. Since all the craziness, he has stopped.

BwanaCole,

I lived in Luanda from 2009-2012. There was talk of some local bird hunting nearby Luanda, but I never found a contact for it. As others have already posted, seems like the efforts of Roger Whittal and Russ Broom have not resulted in openings and I haven't heard anything in the past 1-2 years to indicate they are still trying.

My advice would be to enjoy the fishing which can be very good and take advantage of the proximity to other great hunting countries.

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Originally posted by BwanaCole:
My darling bride works for Big Oil and there is a decent probability that we may move to Angola for a year or two in the foreseeable future. I would love to know if there is any hunting for residents there. Anybody here ever live in Luanda that would know?? That would make the decision easier about going or not. Or, maybe just cheap flights to Namibia??

Haven't been there, but I also work in O&G in Africa, and many guys I interact with have. Most want to never go back there. I have one friend there now, his housing costs are $16k a month. I am sure you wife's company will foot all the bills, but try to talk to as many people as possible before committing, I didn't like the things I heard.

Mymur sounds like he could be a good source of information.

BwanaCole,

I live in Luanda and have for most of my life. There is no legal hunting for residents in Angola and despite what you may read I don't believe that will change anytime soon. Most game, in accessible areas' has been completely poached out, to feed a rapidly expanding population. When I hunt I go to Namibia or Zimbabwe, which are a short flight away. As noted, the offshore fishing is good, but the illegal long liners and purse seiners are slowly screwing that up too. It's Africa....

FWIW

Thanks guys, that is exactly what I needed to know! Always can count on good info from AR members. If she takes the post, I go. She followed me around wherever the Navy sent me so it's my turn to follow her. Good to know Namibia and Zim are close by and I have good mates in Tanz as well!

Cheers from Houston,