Pretty much sums up the odds of it being lifted.

Jeff

And another:


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/po...t-without-elephants/

Expect nothing less from the Clintons.

I wish one US ex - president would focus on domestic stuff instead of collecting donations globally. Big exception is Obama - I wish we as us citizens paid him to live overseas after he is done - he can have the best expat package and maybe even build his library outside - I can dream.

Mike

Mike

quote:

Originally posted by larryshores:
And another:


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/po...t-without-elephants/

Larry you should name your new 500 vc - Chelsea and go whack some elephants.

Mike

no comment from me- only in private after a couple of scotches

"A kilo of ivory can sell for $3,000 to collectors in China or America"

Really? I don't doubt it in China, but is there really a thriving illegal ivory trade among Americans? That's clearly a misguided supposition or an outright lie to garner support for more funding.

quote:

Originally posted by Beretta682E:

quote:

Originally posted by larryshores:
And another:


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/po...t-without-elephants/

Larry you should name your new 500 vc - Chelsea and go whack some elephants.

Mike

It will happen in September!

Oh, I think Chelsea's kid is gonna have waaaaay more "issues" than a perceived lack of elephants.

. . . reason number 3,251 to ensure that Hildebeest is not elected in 2016. We need to put Hildebeest on the endangered species list, a species ripe for extinction.

All I know is that a guy has to be pretty freaking drunk to screw any of the Clinton women

Cats will be next once the fund raising infrastructure is built out.

Mike

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Originally posted by Biddleman:
All I know is that a guy has to be pretty freaking drunk to screw any of the Clinton women

There used to be an old joke about why Chelsea was so ugly? Janet Reno was her real father.

The Republican Party's animal is the elephant. She has nothing to worry about WRT her children growing up in a world without elephants ....

Citiots!!!

This is a smokescreen. All of us know that the Chinese and Vietnamese are the ones driving the poaching, and the Chinese have owned the Clintons since their White House days. If this initiative ever gets too effective in reducing the poaching, the Chinese would throw the Clintons under the bus. This move by the Clintons is nothing more than plausible deniability.

Give me the $80 million they got for it, and I can GUARANTEE I will stop the poaching!

No government interference though!

What a pair of dummies
That 80 mil will just be swallowed by admin costs and other BS and will never reach the ground zero which is Shoot poachers and sink Chinese

Chuck Norris said it best just yesterday.

“The truth is: What’s scarier than Hillary entering the presidential race is Hillary winning the presidential race,”

They are overstating the $3000 price for a kg of ivory. The black market price in the Middle East is around $1500-2000. I suppose the price IN CHINA could be that, but not for long when a plane ticket to Cairo gets you a 30-50% discount.

I hope that hunters and shooters see that our destiny resides in our ability to unite and vote in a Republican President...even if the candidate turns out to not be our first choice...we have to unite!

The Primaries are also very important...as the Bushes are not clean either on this subject...IE: Laura Bush's dislike for leopard hunting.

Open season on democrats is the only reason...

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Originally posted by Biddleman:
All I know is that a guy has to be pretty freaking drunk to screw any of the Clinton women

They could make a freight train take a dirt road! Hitlery spoke at my older son's graduation from the University of Michigan back in 1993. Very eloquent speech but didn't say squat. Couldn't help but notice her "cankles"- she goes straight from her calf to her feet with no discernible ankles.

That's what WASPS in NE say about the ankles.
You're not bred well ( inbred ?!?! )

There is an anti-elephant hunting/ivory trade bill board on I-4 in Orlando. When one checks it out, guess who is behind it? The Clintons.

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Originally posted by larryshores:
There is an anti-elephant hunting/ivory trade bill board on I-4 in Orlando. When one checks it out, guess who is behind it? The Clintons.

I saw it driving down - its like an exit from your place. I thought it was targeted at you Larry

Mike

Saw this article the other day and thought it was an interesting read.

http://magazine.africageograph...od-the-bad-the-ugly/

Good article Mark
These people will never get it
They live in some fairy tale land with Peter Pan as their band leader

I would imagine that a woman would have to just as drunk to screw a Clinton woman as well.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...e9234b303_story.html



Chelsea Clinton highlights plight of elephants on visit to reserve in Kenya



By Kevin Sieff May 3


SAMBURU, Kenya — Former President Bill Clinton and his daughter, Chelsea, visited one of Africa’s most prominent elephant reserves Sunday, highlighting the enormous threat still facing the species, in spite of growing conservation efforts.

In a separate visit, Secretary of State John F. Kerry headed Sunday for an elephant sanctuary elsewhere in the country. He is in Kenya for talks on counterterrorism and regional security issues but has also been a strong proponent of combatting poaching.

The Clintons have become some of the world’s best-known advocates for the elephants in recent years, as demand for ivory in Asia has led to a surge in poaching across Africa. About 100,000 of the continent’s elephants were killed for their tusks between 2010 and 2012. That trend appears to be continuing across some of Africa’s war-ravaged countries, with poaching groups often linked to criminal and terrorist networks.


As secretary of state, Hillary Rodham Clinton hosted a conference on the need to end poaching, calling for a concerted effort to protect elephants and for increased law enforcement. In 2013, the Clinton Global Initiative, part of her family’s charitable foundation, announced an $80 million program to protect Africa’s elephants and end ivory trafficking, in coordination with several conservation groups.

On Sunday, it was Chelsea Clinton pressing for aid, touring the Samburu National Reserve in northern Kenya, the jeep she was in getting within feet of an elephant herd in this park that many consider a conservation success story.

“My mom and I both realized independently that we were facing a real poaching crisis,” said Clinton, who is vice chair of the Clinton Foundation, which her mother joined after stepping down as secretary of state in 2013. “We knew we had to do something.”

Experts call the Clintons’ attention to the issue — particularly Hillary Clinton’s speech in 2012 as secretary of state — a galvanizing force.

“It was a real tipping point,” said Iain Douglas-Hamilton, founder of Save the Elephants, a nonprofit organization. “Her language was very powerful.”


The increased attention to the issue has helped conservation advocates in some places, including Samburu, to tap into funding sources and access cutting-edge anti-poaching research. But in many other locales, the situation continues to be grave.

In war-torn Central African Republic, for example, fledgling anti-poaching efforts have done little to diminish the problem. In Congo, 30 elephants were killed in 15 days this year in Garamba National Park. In Congo, the rebel Lord’s Resistance Army, led by Joseph Kony, has been involved in ivory trafficking, according to experts.

The number of elephants killed in 2014 has not yet been released, but it’s expected to be close to the 20,000 slain the previous year. The staggering numbers of deaths are occurring despite campaigns by nongovernmental organizations such as the Clinton Foundation and global accords such as the London declaration, in which 46 countries agreed to help curb the illegal wildlife trade.


Central Africa’s forest elephants have proved to be especially vulnerable. Between 2002 and 2013, 65 percent of the species was killed, according to a study in the journal PLOS One.

“We are in an elephant crisis right now,” Hamilton told Bill and Chelsea Clinton and the delegation of donors who came with them to Samburu.

Ivory tusks are worth about a thousand dollars a pound in China, and demand there continues to drive poaching across Africa. The illegal wildlife trade is valued at $7 billion to $10 billion annually.

Even in Kenya, where the government is considered to be one of the most vehement foes of poaching in Africa, only a fraction of those charged with the offense are ever sentenced to prison.

In Samburu, about 90 elephants wear GPS collars that tell researchers when the animals are stationary — and possibly wounded by poachers — or running quickly, possibly through a zone threatened by poachers. The Clinton Foundation doesn’t directly fund the project, or others like it, but it has helped connect Samburu-based Save the Elephants with other donors.


Chelsea Clinton said she wasn’t entirely sure what drew her interest to the issue initially — whether it was seeing elephants in the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus or at the zoo in Little Rock, where she lived as a child — but “there was a real emotional connection, and I knew that I wanted to engage in elephant conservation efforts.”

“This we really know how to solve,” she said. “It’s just that the organizations that are here on the front lines . . . need more money to do what they’re doing.”

Coincidentally, Hillary Clinton’s successor as secretary of state, Kerry, was also in Kenya on Sunday, arriving from Sri Lanka for a series of meetings Monday with President Uhuru Kenyatta and other senior officials.

Kerry and his entourage drove through Nairobi National Park, pausing to gaze at lions, buffalos, warthogs, giraffes and gazelles, while en route to the Sheldrick center elephant orphanage. There, Kerry helped feed one infant animal and listened empathetically to the stories of how the young elephants had arrived. Some were taken in after their tails were bitten off by predators, and others suffered swollen feet from being mangled in cables. In some cases, the animals simply wandered away from the herds.

The elephants are nursed back to health until they reach 3 years of age, when they are returned to the wild.

In his previous job as chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Kerry held the panel’s first hearing on poaching in Africa, urging greater action to save endangered elephants.
Carol Morello in Nairobi contributed to this report.

Kevin Sieff has been The Post’s bureau chief in Nairobi since 2014. He served previously as the bureau chief in Kabul and had covered the U.S. -Mexico border

The Clintons should be in jail. Both of them.

I want to vomit. Here it is Boys and Girls.........

Up above, someone called them citiots.
Wouldn't CLITIOTS be closer to the truth?

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Originally posted by Bud Meadows:

Couldn't help but notice her "cankles"- she goes straight from her calf to her feet with no discernible ankles.

She has something in common with the elephant after all. Hereditary perhaps. jc