Planning a trip there.....to hunt species like kudu, oryx etc.

What range are these animals normally shot at in that country...?

Is it crazy to leave the .375H&H at home and bring a Mannlicher Schoenauer in 9,5x57MS instead...?

Much hassle to bring more than one rifle there...?

Ask your PH at what range his, or her, clients normally shoot. Namibia is a very large country with significantly different habitats. I hunted in both mountainous and flatlands.

I took a .338 WinMag and it served me very well.

Our shots ranged from 25 to 200 meters. A 9,3 X 62 served well.

I used my 30-06 killed everything at which took a we shot.

hi!

Shot 8 animals in Namibia this spring. Ranges 40 - 180 meters. My 9,3*64 worked wonderfully

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I wouldn't take the Mannlicher.The airlines might lose it and I wouldn't take that chance

It might depend on the area you are going to hunt. I was in the Kalahari region last July and took my .375 H&H with 260 grain Accubond loaded for flat shooting. And it was a good thing I did since I took my springbok at over 200 meters.

I would take one of the new air guns. That way you most likely won't get into any trouble and be reported to the USF&W by those there who have been making threats to do just that. Namibia, not for me in the near future, until things sort themselves out. Not worth a knock on the door by the Feds.

Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member

I took a 375 H&H (270 Gr North Fork Softs) at 2650 FPS, and a 300 Jarrett (180 Gr North Forks) at 3150 FPS.

Both Calibers and bullets worked great on a variety of plains game (Kudu, Wildebeast, Gemsbock etc.

Shot the Gemsbock and Springbuck at over 200 yards with the 300 Jarrett, and took the Kudu, Blk and Blue Wildebeast with the 375 H&H.

Both worked very well and could have been used equally as well in either scenario.

I really liked the 375 H&H and it was flat shooting enough for long shots and hit with authority with the tough Wildebeasts and would have been excellent on Zebra as well if the opportunity presented itself.

30-06 will work well on any of the Plainsgame, but the 375 just made the experience in Africa much better from a traditional sense. I liked the 375 H&H more and more as the the hunt progressed.

Longest shot was 230 yards (Gemsbock and Springbuck) Kudu was close 30 yards and Wildebeast were 150 yards or less.

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Originally posted by Larry Sellers:
I would take one of the new air guns. That way you most likely won't get into any trouble and be reported to the USF&W by those there who have been making threats to do just that. Namibia, not for me in the near future, until things sort themselves out. Not worth a knock on the door by the Feds.

Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member

Is this helpful?

dla69 - This is extremly helpful if you ask me. If you get a paid a visit from the USF&W and loose many thousands of dollars and spend some time in Federal Prison because someone in Namibia "turned you in" then any warning of such would be deemed "helpful". What caliber of gun you were using would not be much of a concern in that situation.

Look up some of the old posts on this subject and situation and you will see some of the scary possibilities.

Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member

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Originally posted by dla69:

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Originally posted by Larry Sellers:
I would take one of the new air guns. That way you most likely won't get into any trouble and be reported to the USF&W by those there who have been making threats to do just that. Namibia, not for me in the near future, until things sort themselves out. Not worth a knock on the door by the Feds.

Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member

Is this helpful?

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Originally posted by Larry Sellers:
dla69 - This is extremly helpful if you ask me. If you get a paid a visit from the USF&W and loose many thousands of dollars and spend some time in Federal Prison because someone in Namibia "turned you in" then any warning of such would be deemed "helpful". What caliber of gun you were using would not be much of a concern in that situation.

Look up some of the old posts on this subject and situation and you will see some of the scary possibilities.

Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member

The original poster wasn't asking if he should go to Namibia, simply what rifles he should take. Furhtermore, being from Norway why does he care about US anything?

Either would be fine I would think.

I have shot a fair bit of plains game in Namibia, including plains and mountain zebra, southern greater kudu, gemsbok, red hartebeest and steenbok.

Ranges have been from 20 to 300 yards, with most shots coming at between 120-200 yards.

I have used a .25-06, a .338 Win. Mag. and a .416 Rigby.

Of those, the best all around has been the .338.

Of the two you mentioned, I would go with the .375, loaded with 270 grain bullets.

A .338 Win. Mag. is ideal for most Namibian plains game shooting, IMHO.

For Namibian plains game, I've used the .375 H&H, 9,3x62, .338 WinMag, 8x57 Mauser, .30-06, .308 Win, and .222 Rem, with the .338 WinMag taking the majority of the game. I'd be happy with either of your rifles, the .375 H&H or the 9,5x57MS (with a tendency towards the 9,5x57 because I've never used one)

A hunting buddy and myself are off to Namibia in September. My friend's taking a 6.5x55 and I'm taking a 300 SAUM and the PH assures us the 6.5 will do the job very well so I suppose the 300 will be adequate as well.
Admittedly we're not considering the larger species like eland and zebra, but I'm confident if we do our job, the cartridges will do theirs.

I'd get a new gun

Don't want to trust those old calibres now do you?

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Originally posted by dla69:

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Originally posted by Larry Sellers:
dla69 - This is extremly helpful if you ask me. If you get a paid a visit from the USF&W and loose many thousands of dollars and spend some time in Federal Prison because someone in Namibia "turned you in" then any warning of such would be deemed "helpful". What caliber of gun you were using would not be much of a concern in that situation.

Look up some of the old posts on this subject and situation and you will see some of the scary possibilities.

Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member

The original poster wasn't asking if he should go to Namibia, simply what rifles he should take. Furhtermore, being from Norway why does he care about US anything?

great answer.

I used my 375 H&H (300 grain TSX at 2500 fps) out to 300 yards while in Namibia. Sighted in 2" high at 100 yards it is 10.5 " low at 300 yards.

dla69 - Wasn't directing my comments to only the "original poster" as it seems several folks here may be thinking the same thing. Hey, if you think it's cool to take a chance and go there and risk your life savings and more be my guest!! When the Feds show up they won't just take the gun you used in Namibia, most likely more than that?

Original poster - If they can manage to do someone in from the USA they could most likely make it pretty hot on someone no matter where they live.

Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member

Have hunted several times in Namibia on several properties. Everything from duiker to elephant. Mostly a bunch of gemsbok, warthog, and kudu. Throw in some wildebeest, an eland, and throw in a leopard, some springbok, and the aforementioned elephant. Calibers have included .270, .300 Weatherby, .338 Win Mag, and .375 H&H. Shot some stuff with the PH's .240 Weatherby too. Plus my wife whacked some stuff with a 30-06 and my son shot all his stuff with a LH .338 Win Mag.

All that said I'd go with the .300 Weatherby, the .375 H&H, or rent what the PH has. The majority of my shooting was 100 to 200 yards.

And yes, I brained the problem bull elephant up on the Caprivi with the .375 and it was DRT. Have the video to prove it too.

I will be going to Namibia for the third time in April. I have used 7mm Rem. and .300 WM. This time I will probably take a .300 RSAUM and a .220 Swift. Closest shot I have ever had was 85 yards, longest 510 yards (baboon), they average around 250 yards. In the Khomas you will probably shoot from one mountain to the next, in the Kalihari from one dune to the next. Usuaully you will have a good rest, take a bi-pod. Just my 2 cents........Tom

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I wouldn't take the Mannlicher.The airlines might lose it and I wouldn't take that chance

Has anyone actually "Lost" a rifle, permanently, while flying. Plenty get delayed, but it seems far fetched that rifles get lost.

Pondoro: Are you going to the north or the south? Shots in the wetter, brushier (relatively) north are usually somewhat closer. In the wide-open south shots can be as long as you are willing to take.

Take whichever gun you prefer, but a smaller, faster caliber can be helpful if hunting in the south. Neither of the animals you mention require anything more than a .30-06-class rifle.

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Originally posted by Russ Gould:
Has anyone actually "Lost" a rifle, permanently, while flying. Plenty get delayed, but it seems far fetched that rifles get lost.

My friend did, on a trip to Zimbabwe I believe it was (might have been Namibia).
A double .470 Merkel. He was displeased, indeed.

- Lars/Finland

The ranges on my hunt were mostly less than 180 yards. I had two longer shots, 320 on my Hartman’s Zebra and 380 on my Red Hartebeest. I used a .300 WSM shooting 180 grain TSX. It worked great! My son shot two Kudu, a cow and a 49 inch Bull with a 7MM-08 Rem shooting 140 grain TTSX. Hekilled that bull with one shot, just as fast as any of the animals I shot with my .300. On the two long shots I was happy to have the .300. We were in thick thorn bush in the Kalahari. The long shots were on some small savannas and down a couple dirt tracks.

My hunting partner and I were in Namibia this past June. Both of used .338WSM wildcats with Nosler 210gr Partitions. Guns did fine. Both of your rifles would have taken everything we took (zebra, kudu, wildebeest, gemsbok, etc.).

If I could get reasonable accuracy up to 250m with the Mannlicher, then this would be my pick as a hunt to Ex German Ost Afrika would be just classic with such a weapon.

Ozhunter, that is exactly my thoughts....I am waiting on a batch of ammo from Kynoch and what accuracy the rifle will produce...

first of all. merry chrismas.
i understand that you like your mannlicher . these guns are really delight. when it comes to shoot at longer distance a good scope with mil.dot may help a lot . last summer we tried a 22 Lr with a scope and mil-dot reticle and you can't beleive it . it was possible to shoot a target of seize of clay birds up to 300 yards with no problem , then 2100 fps and pointed bullet will surely be much better. if you handload you can get better velocity with 225 gain hornady spitzer bullets. i have tested 225 grain hornady spirepoint in my 375 H&H at low velocity around 2400-2500 fps i guess! and these bullets are very accurate and deadly. i tried them at 35 yards against both dry and soaked newspaper. no core separation and very nice mushrooming. i beleive they can mange the big deer seize animal without problem. an other good option is woodleigh 235 grain @2300 fps . i haven't yet tested this bullet , but i have heared they preform excellent.
good hunting.
yes

Hi I havent read all the above but have guided there and know the country.It could be close shots it could be 300 yds.

So take the rifle you love and know well.

You dont need anything bigger than a 300win mag.30-06 270 anything that can kill a deer or an elk is fine. Dont go an get a cannon that you dont know thats gonna get you flinching. and get good premium ammo that performs all round.Remember you want penetration (dont make the bullets too light and fast), barnesX, Norma Oryx,Bonded bear claw.Thats really all you need
Oh and the most IMPORTANT. . . Bullet placement. youll do great

Ok Sorry just read the thread whats up with this. . .

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dla69 - Wasn't directing my comments to only the "original poster" as it seems several folks here may be thinking the same thing. Hey, if you think it's cool to take a chance and go there and risk your life savings and more be my guest!! When the Feds show up they won't just take the gun you used in Namibia, most likely more than that?

Original poster - If they can manage to do someone in from the USA they could most likely make it pretty hot on someone no matter where they live.

I have never heard of anything you are refering to from Namibia... Maybe Zimbabwe with regards to the lacey act, but thats only if you hunt with a company that been black listed or connected to the regime