Still reckon it took more balls going second....

Things are not what they seem Tony.

We had someone go second, but with a reduced load!

What you see are number one and number three

So number three watched TWO people get smashed by that bloody thing and still wanted to go

quote:

Originally posted by Bakes:
So number three watched TWO people get smashed by that bloody thing and still wanted to go

No.

Number 2 got a reduced load and did not get clobbered!

What are the loads doing in that thing.
I presume 750gr at 2600fps??

Watching those never gets old....
I think it's funny as Hell...
Saeed...looking at their posture before the shot (leaning back) you must have been about to die laughing before they even pulled the trigger

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Originally posted by Poyntman:
Watching those never gets old....
I think it's funny as Hell...
Saeed...looking at their posture before the shot (leaning back) you must have been about to die laughing before they even pulled the trigger

I was thinking the same. lucky the stock did not break when the gun hit the floor.

Looks like that rifle has spent a lot of time in the air.

Dave

naaw, fooling these nice Swedish kids Saeed

Saaed,

You need to relabel the link to the second slo-mo video as "Daniel." You have typo-ed naming the two slo-mo videos both for David.

I have photographic proof that Daniel's load was greatly reduced, and he is quite the whimp, doing no better than David did with a hotter load.

David is the greater "Champion" of this bout on points for hotter load.


Rip ...

This latest match of champions is a strange one, leaving me puzzled over Saeed's warped sense of humor.
Why give little David the hotter load, and the goliath Daniel gets half a case-full of AA-5744?

Champion David:











Loser Daniel:



Notice that there is a total absence of fireball, just a little puff of smoke from the squib load of pistol powder.
The end result is that Daniel dropped the rifle.

Daniel's followthrough grip of rifle is shown below:



David has technical points added for the load he used.
Daniel gets points deducted for the load he used.
Both being equal in degree of control of the FLYING RIFLE, David wins on points.

Rip ...

Here hold my Beer.

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
Things are not what they seem Tony.

We had someone go second, but with a reduced load!

What you see are number one and number three

OK,
David and Daniel both shot the same load? OK, it is a tie.
Makes sense, neither held onto the rifle.
But I thought there was a muzzle flash difference between their loads. Must be an artifact of the video or my viewing of it.

Walter shooting a squib load is good for suckering the "champions" eh?

Rip ...

Use enough gun, but not too much ....

We had an English friend come over with his wife.

He was about 6,2, and she was barely 5.

"You want to try this rifle?" I asked him.

"Not on your life mate! I don't trust you"

"Go on darling, you must try it!" said his wife.

"YOU try it and see what happens"

"I will if Saeed says I can" was her answer.

I got a box of ammo, in which I have put one reduced load, and the 9 others are normal, jaw breakers

I loaded the reduced charge for her.

"Here, just hold it tight. It is not worse than shooting a shotgun"

She fired the it.

"Alright! I will take one of those in the same box. I don't want you giving me something worse" said the husband.

He picked his very own round out of the 9 left in the box, and fired it.

The rifle flew out of his hands, he got pushed back against the back door of the shooting range!

"Oh darling! What happened? It wasn't that bad at all for me!"

"DON'T YOU OH DARLING ME! THIS STUPID FRIEND OF YOURS PUT DYNAMITE IN MINE"

I told her afterwards what I had done.

She gave me a hug and kiss, saying "I LOVE it!"

As many clips that you have posted of folks shooting that gun, and you can still find idiots to shoot that thing.

These clips never get old!

I laugh every time without fail...

That is a laugh. It looks like they took rifle holding lessons from Clint Eastwood with the butt way out on their arms.
Also, I can't get over that kid tweeting through the whole think.
Thanks for the post.

Nice of you to have installed a recoil pad on that thing...

I'd like to see Saeed load up the mag and shoot a quick four shot volley down the tunnel. For fun

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Originally posted by Dead Eye:
I'd like to see Saeed load up the mag and shoot a quick four shot volley down the tunnel. For fun

I have shot it a few times, sometimes not out of choice!

A friend came over once with a German friend of us.

He shot other guns, and then we thought we would get him to shoot this one.

He agreed, but asked that I shoot it first.

Without thinking, I got two rounds out of the box and put them on the table.

One was reduced, and one was full.

The German picked one round to examine it, and kept it in his hands.

It was the reduced charge one.

Now they were all waiting for me to shoot it, and I was not about to ask him for the one he was holding in his hands.

So I fired the full charge load, and he fired the reduced charge load.

He kept telling us that there was nothing to it.

I really wanted him to experience the joys of a full power round, so we had a bit of a discussion.

"The recoil did not hurt you?" I asked.

"No. No different from the one before" Before he was shooting a 308 Winchester.

"You were very lucky, as you must have placed the stock in the right place, or that would have hurt a bit more. I tell you what, here, try holding the rifle and let me see"

He did.

"You are not holding it right at all. If you shoot another one holding it like this, you will notice a difference. Would you like to try another one?"

"OK, I will try"

I gave him a full power round, and he fired it. The rifle flew out of his hands, and he was in a bit of a shock!

"All that because I did not have it in the right place?"

"Yes"!

He has been telling people that putting the rifle in the right place on the shoulder makes all the difference!

Awesome!
How many ft lbs of recoil are we talking here? Full power. Approximately?

750 grain bullet at 2580 fps.

You can work it out on different websites.

It is a miracle that this rifle hasn't broken yet, having been flying out of hands for 20 years now

quote:

Originally posted by Double Rifle:
It is a miracle that this rifle hasn't broken yet, having been flying out of hands for 20 years now

It has.

Many times.

We just keep fixing it to be ready for the next champion!

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
We just keep fixing it to be ready for the next champion!

You meant to say, "the next unsuspecting sucker"

Punishing young swedes by rifle Good stuff!

Poor, dumb bastards! Still fun to watch, though!

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
750 grain bullet at 2580 fps.

You can work it out on different websites.

Add data from Saeed's loads for the .577 Tyrannosaur, found on his/the site's reloading pages:
13.6-pound flying rifle
Powder charge: 186.0 grains of VVN550
MV from the 23" barrel: 2581 fps

Input that data into the JBM recoil calculator found here: http://www.jbmballistics.com/c...in/jbmrecoil-5.1.cgi

Output, free recoil numbers:
184.1 ft-lbs KE smacking the shoulder at
29.8 fps
Impulse = 12.5 pound-seconds

For comparison to other rifles with actual load data that I have verified,
"Free-Recoil Impulse" is a good, simple, one-number comparison, for sporting rifles.
Impulse does not change with the rifle weight.
It is the "propulsion effect" generated by the load leaving whatever rifle.
The lighter rifle will cause more "perceived kick" than the heavier rifle for any given impulse number.
That is "impulse drive" not "warp drive" mind you:

.30-06, 180-grainer at 2700 fps: 3.3 lb-sec.

.375/404 Jeffery Saeed of 2012, 300-grain GSC HV at 2708 fps: 5.4 lb-sec.

.375/404 Jeffery Saeed of 2012, 300-grain GSC HV at 2858 fps: 5.7 lb-sec.

.458 Win. Mag., 400-grain GSC HV at 2502 fps: 6.2 lb-sec.

.458 Win. Mag. 500-grainer at 2159 fps: 6.3 lb-sec.

.577 Tyrannosaur 750-grainer at 2581 fps: 12.5 lb-sec.

We'll have to take Saeed's word on the .577 Tyrannosaur load, not verified by me.

The .577 Tyrannosaur recoil has only about twice the free recoil impulse of the .458 Win. Mag.
Anybody who cannot hang onto that without dropping it is wet behind the ears or just a klutz.

Rip ...

^^
That's it?

Very funny! I had seen some of these before, and had no idea it was you Saeed!

Great videos; never gets old