Do any of the AR guests own and or have used the Remminggton standard model 7 with 20 inch barrel for hunting plains game in Africa or the USA for thst matter //

Are they a reasonable weapon and what sort of price can one get a good or near new one for in the USA

Peter

Balla Balla,

No experience in Africa with one; but they are one of the most popular models of American Deer Rifles. I have one in 308 and it is a tackdriver, light and very handy / quick. Not CRF, but I would be hard pressed to recommend a better brush / light and medium game rifle.

Cost would be nominal here in the states.

Peter I do not know what the prices are now but I have experience with several Model 7's, 223, 243 308 and 350 RM I have woned my self, I have shot friends 6MM and 70-8.
I have a couple of 18 "bbled 308's, the older models in the synthentic stock that I have hunted with quite a bit for deer and pigs.
Both have been shot on paper to 600 yards and would suprise you with their accuracy.
Several other friends have 308's also, all told I have shot or seen or shot around 9 or so.
I have a Stainless synthentic 20" that has a Swarovski 6x ZF scope with the ballistic cam.
You could easily stay in the vitals of a deer sized target to 600 yards, oif the wind is not too bad, not that I would shoot at unwounded game that far away.

They have never given me any feeding or functioning problems.
They are one of my favorite factory rifles.

Main reason I ask is because the Police here in NZ have about 800 of these rifles, some in near pristene condition, and they are going to destroy them ALL as they will be replaced by a semi-auto rifle ..

I want to (cry my eyes out) when they say they will ( have to destroy them) because of the crap UN charter in trade of small arms, that they are oblidged to destroy and nor sell them !!!!

I cant believe that bull..it myself BUT that is what is being said. Maybe I can get hold of someone in NZ Police and some entreprenuer can make an offer for the lot (-:

Peter

Howzit Balla Balla,

Used the Mod 7 SS with 20" barrel in .308 a number of years ago to shoot kudu and springbok in the E Cape.

I like the feel of the rifle, handy, light, balanced. I, with limited time, could not get it to group well at all using 165gr partitions and sonchem S335 and S341. It belonged to one of my lecturers at the time and subsequent efforts by both of us also yielded 'poor' accuracy (but acceptable for shorter range hunting)
In the Feb 2006 Magnum, he writes about hunting feral donkeys in the Baviaanskloof wilderness and in the article states that he still battles to get it to group under 2" with various bullets from 150-180gr.

I am sure they are many accurate ones but this one was finicky to say the least! perhaps it needs some attantion we didn't think of?
I still like them! I think the wood stocked 18" barrel carbine or the 'mannlicher version' in 7mm-08 or .308 (or .358 win, .338 Federal) would be a great all round bushveld rifle for African game!
They are a joy to carry and light short rifles are very appealing.
Hows the Ruger ultralight?

I have a model 7 7mm-08 in stainless steel and it has worked fine for me in Georgia. I've killed four whitetail deer with in in the last 3 years at woods ranges and they have all dropped in their tracks. It's small, light and accurate with the 140-grain Nosler partition load.
When I travel I use other rifles, because I feel I need more power and range. The only large game I've killed with the model 7 is a large 300+ pound feral pig. The partition did the job with little fuss and very little meat damage.

Peter the police are giving 50 of the rifles to Deerstalkers/mountain saftery council for firearms training,with young hunters.

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Originally posted by Balla Balla:
Main reason I ask is because the Police here in NZ have about 800 of these rifles, some in near pristene condition, and they are going to destroy them ALL as they will be replaced by a semi-auto rifle ..
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Prices I have seen, depending on configuration run from $490 to about $650 new.

The Blue Book I have is several years old, so not sure what the range should be used.

When I was in NZ last summer the subject was being talked about on "talk back" radio and it was pointed out that the police wanted the semi-automatic 223 to replace their "underpowered 308s".

HUH????

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Originally posted by TOP_PREDATOR:
Peter the police are giving 50 of the rifles to Deerstalkers/mountain saftery council for firearms training,with young hunters.

TP that is a reasonably positive move, burt what about the remaining 800+ rifles !!

Apparantly the Police will replace or have started replacing the Remmington with ReXM15 M4A3 Bushmaster rifles !!

Cheers, Peter

This past summer a friend who accompainied me to Botswana used a Rem Model 7 in 300RSAUM. He took Zebra, Kudu, Impala, and Red Lechewe. The gun functioned flawlessly.

TerryR

I certainly can't fault them for wanting to move to a semi-auto duty weapon. It's pretty much standard now. I am ill thinking about just destroying that many nice little rifles. There has to be some better use/home/fate for them!!

My Model Seven in .260 Rem is my "go-to" whitetail rifle with 125-grain Nosler Partitions. I'd experiment with 175s to see what kind of velocity I could get if I were taking it to Africa. I'd be satisfied with 2400 fps.