A tragedy is taking place right in front of ours eyes

A friend just returned from hunting Mkuzi for rhino and said its a war that is just being lost. They are flying into the reserves at night via helicopter, sniping them with night vision scoped rifles, landing, removing the horn and being out of there in minutes.....

That might explain how they killed two rhinos and removed the horns with no signs of entry or exit from the fenced park. The folks that ran the park said a lot of the poaching was being done by former military commando types.

Until they start cutting off the snakes head, there will be no stopping. Poison rhino horn and put it into the market. You want to stop this, do what it takes. All this BS continues because it is supported by the offending countries. Raid all the shops dispensing rhino horn and shoot the owners within 24 hours; burn their shops to the ground. Otherwise your just pissing in the wind. Arm the parks with ground to air missles and shoot down any illegal aircraft. LDK

Dang LDK, kinda serious about this aren't you?
I happen to agree, desperate times call for desperate measures.
I especially like the ground to air missles.

You need to kill people with money behind the poachers and take all of their wealth.

National Geographic has a good article on this in the current issue. The trade is being driven right now by Vietnam. One guy in South Africa has started a rhino ranch to cut off horns like shearing sheep. He hopes that enough legal rhino horn can stop the poaching.

To sum it up don't get angry get even.

Mike

Anyone know what had happened to our crooks from Out Of Africa who were involved in this?

Last I heard that they have lost the court documents!

Talk about corruption higher and higher up in the South African government!

Sure the rampant rhino poaching is a tragedy! The real tragedy is that they are getting away with it! Maybe not always, but mostly!

But is the continued existence of the species threatened by the current level of poaching? We know that the level of poaching is ever increasing, but does the number of rhino currently poached in a year exceed significantly the number of rhino claves that reach sexual maturity in the same year? Methinks not! IMHO even if all the sport hunted rhino and poaching deaths are combined, the population is probably still growing every year.

But it is only my gut-feel and I do not have the accurate facts about rhino numbers, legally hunted numbers, poaching numbers and breeding success.

Fact is that there is an alarming increase in corruption at ever higher and higher as well as lower and lower levels in our government. Government here includes the SA Police Services who boasts the dubious record of the most corrupt two successive bosses. It is the SAPS who loose dockets! It is the SAPS who tips off the culprits about planned raids. The corruption is of course led from the top: None other that State President Jacob Zuma who is, in my honest opinion, totally and utterly corrupt. Period.

Now it is not the corrupt idiot Jacob Zuma that is the real threat to the survival of all that is good in our country. Nor is the corrupt idiot Julius Malema the real threat. They are mere corrupt idiots and thugs who are using the system for their own personal enrichment! Our country can easily survive both of them, and a number of equally corrupt ministers and heads of departments! They are just simple fools. But what we cannot survive is the collective idiocy of the millions of people who made Jacob Zuma their president! These same people, as a collective bunch of idiots, will support the fool and make him their president again! And again! Or someone like Julius Malema, who will no doubt lead to a more rapid decline on moral values in the country.

What started all of this? I leave that question to be answered by the supporters of the Anti-apartheid movements and the clever guys who led to the current ANC [mis]government in power.

Sure the rampant rhino poaching is a tragedy! The real tragedy is that they are getting away with it! Maybe not always, but mostly! We have bigger problems. Or more correctly stated: Millions of small idiot problems!

However I will say that it will give me a nice warm feeling if some of the more radical suggestions to stop the rhino poaching tragedy are implemented though! While making such sound suggestions to stop the rhino poaching, why don’t you also please tell us what to do about the collection of millions of fools and idiots who will make a criminal like Zuma President again?

In good hunting.

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However I will say that it will give me a nice warm feeling if some of the more radical suggestions to stop the rhino poaching tragedy are implemented though! While making such sound suggestions to stop the rhino poaching, why don’t you also please tell us what to do about the collection of millions of fools and idiots who will make a criminal like Zuma President again?

Andrew, I wish I could give you some suggestions but we face the same things here. Idiots voting for free handouts and electing anyone that offers such freebies.

God save us all.


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I don't think that the States has anything on SA where less than 2 million people pay exhorbitant taxes to support 47 million won't works, don't works, thieves, bums and politicians. Nah! You ain't seen nuffink.

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You ain't seen nuffink.

Okay. Maybe you could say we "ain't seen nuffin, YET" but we get closer everyday.

Every now & then I get on my High Horse about an issue off somewhere & ask why do those idiots do those things. Then I remember, I live in Louisianna, I'm not sure but I think stupid voters were created here & sent out to corrupt the rest of the world.
Sorry Folks!

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You ain't seen nuffink.

Okay. Maybe you could say we "ain't seen nuffin, YET" but we get closer everyday.

Texans say "nuffin," some folk from the UK say "nuffink." There is just too much influence from Texas!

Bwana Cecil, didn't you guys import stupid voters? Jes askin! Paid for 'em,too.

We should not forget that the world we live in has almost 7 billion people and not just a billion or so from the West. The moment the topic veers off to political issues, it is sure to slide into a pointless debate of finger pointing. It all depends on what your values are and what your point of view is. Memories are often very short and convenient.

A lot of people voted for GWB despite driving the world towrds ruin and they still are in denial. There are some who want the world to go back to a global war!

I very much doubt if changing the political regimes in South Africa or the US will make a differnce. Best to avoid this slippery slope and focus on how we can try and save the rhino. After all the original decline of the rhino had nothing to do with Zuma or the ANC or any contemporary political system.

Poisoning horns and releasing the stuff into the world markets is the way to go. The same should be done with tiger bone. When a 50,000 people die or get very sick and impotent with this stuff, they will stop buying and the traders will stop trading.

Impotency is probably the greatest disincentive to trading in Rhino & tiger products!

Naki
It's funny that you should take a swipe at GWB, THEN decide it is best to avoid this slippery slope.
My how liberals see things!

DUM F#*K Asiatics who believe that animal parts cure cancer. At least in the end, cancer will help cure the the a#$& holes. As far as the decline of the rhino goes, everyone is concerned about now, [except Indus horriblis ] . The current government in South Africa has demonstrated that it has no political will to observe good governance. The previous National Police Commisioner has been jailed as a common criminal, the Current National Police Commisioner is on the same track. Both were ANC cadres and appointed with NO previous knowledge of the police except maybe running from them. Kids in schools have no books, furniture, doors and windows. Some schools destroyed or damaged by fire or storms years ago, are still a heap of rubble. The Eastern Cape Provicial Government has slashed the annual budget of Environmental Affairs [Nature Conservation] by 60%. Right in the time of increased poaching of rhino, cycads, abalone [ to the East, where else, http://www.news24.com/SouthAfr...emoen-raids-20120207], tortoises, geckos. lizzards and spiders.
The rest of Africa demonstates the same attitude of screw everything, everybody and give me the national cash box. By the way, any shortages in the national cash box, some liberal wanker, [mostly European,] will make good.

Not sure if this link will work, this is a short video clip taken by a first responder Vet at the Kariega private game reserve where 2 Rhinos had their horns chopped off while still alive and they are trying to keep them alive, albeit with huge gping holes on their snouts.

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?...jjdYH-io&h=BAQFMgzd9

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=368270519870487

Give all the hunters license to kill poachers when they see them

The poaching of rhino is nothing less than the blatant theft of some-one else's property. The real horror is that the animals are not killed outright, but are left to die a long lingering painful death. All animals hunted suffer death but all ethical hunters ensure that the animal hunted, dies as quick a death as possible with minimal suffering. Yeah, I suppose I am preaching to the choir.