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What would be their job if hunting and fishing was outlawed?

Shouldn’t we demand affirmative action for hiring that at least half of the USFW must be hunters and fishermen?
After all, we are minority right? Arent we then protected?
Any Malicious action against us should be hate crime right?

Just my Sunday afternoon food for thought as weather outside is simply nasty...


" Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins.
When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar.
Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan
PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move...

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Yes, we are a minority and should be declared a "protected class". Illegal to discriminate against. Affirmative action should apply and not stop until fifty percent of all Americans are hunters. lgbtqH. Well, maybe on second thought...


...I say that hunters go into Paradise when they die, and live in this world more joyfully than any other men.
-Edward, duke of York

". . . when a man has shot an elephant his life is full." ~John Alfred Jordan

"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." Cicero - 55 BC

"The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." - Ayn Rand

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“It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest. We address ourselves, not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities but of their advantages.”
― Adam Smith - “Wealth of Nations”
 
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I have been saying for years that the Colorado Division of Wildlife (now Parks and Recreation) have been infiltrated by PETA members.

Now that more information is being learned about the "Deep State" (govt bureaucrats who let personal bias rule their actions, not laws, policies, or procedures), maybe it is time for citizens to start trying to help "drain the swamps" at all levels of government.

BH63


Hunting buff is better than sex!
 
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I sat in on a seminar regarding current trends in Tanzania. USFWS was in attendance. Talking with them (briefly) the two ladies were taken aback when I told them there was no biological reason to not allow Lion trophies into the US, and the restriction was purely political. Lots of DC sewer needs to be drained.


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They would continue to do what they do best, absolutely nothing. WEll that may be a bit harsh, but they are the fed gov. and its broken all to hell these days..When politicians get involved things tend to go South.


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Filer, Idaho, 83328
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I feel it is highly unfair to say that what the USF&W does best is "nothing." If they had done nothing the last 30 years, hunters would be a lot better off.
Off the top of my head they have:

Released wolves into the lower 48, decimating multiple elk herds and forcing states to lose millions in license revenue to "feed the wolves."
Lead ammo ban on Federal lands.
Elephant and Lion import ban, severely limiting anti-poaching funds for operations.

I have an open mind that things will get better under Zinke. But under the Obama administration, I could not believe that SCI would let them have a booth at the convention. PETA and HSUS could never even dream of being a more effective anti-hunting organization than USF&W has been.

YES. AT LEAST HALF of the USF&W should be hunters/anglers. And half seems awfully low...
 
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I worked in the USFWS as a biologist from 1978 to 1983. There were five professionals, all biologists, in the office and only two of us were hunters. I imagine there a much lower percentage now.
 
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7 responders and none of them realize that they have ALL in one manner or another have clearly stated that USFW does not care about the hunting public in America.

If you arer going to complain about a situation, look at the common denominator.


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https://www.fws.gov/news/ShowN...fish-and-w&_ID=36224



Press Release

President Proposes $1.2 Billion FY 2019 Budget for U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
Includes legislation to establish infrastructure fund to improve refuges

February 12, 2018
Contact(s):
Gavin Shire, gavin_shire@fws.gov, 703-358-2649


WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump has proposed a $1.2 billion Fiscal Year 2019 (FY19) budget for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, which includes proposed legislation to establish a Public Lands Infrastructure Fund that would take new revenue from federal energy leasing and development and provide up to $18 billion for repairs and improvements in national wildlife refuges, national parks and Bureau of Indian Education funded schools. The Service’s budget also includes $1.6 billion in permanent funding, which is administered to states through grants that support state wildlife and sport fish conservation, recreational boating and other related programs.

“President Trump is absolutely right to call for a robust infrastructure plan that rebuilds our national parks, refuges and Indian schools, and I look forward to helping him deliver on that historic mission," said U.S. Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke. “Our Parks and Refuges are being loved to death, but the real heart break is the condition of the schools in Indian Country. We can and must do better for these young scholars. This is not a republican or democrat issue, this is an American issue, and the President and I are ready to work with absolutely anyone in Congress who is willing to get the work done."

With these priorities in mind, the Service’s budget focuses funding on the nation’s highest priority conservation needs, access to existing federal lands for all Americans, and the agency’s role in streamlining energy development and infrastructure improvements, while containing costs through effective operations. Strategic investments support our core mission, while staying on top of National Wildlife Refuge System maintenance, and efforts to combat illegal trade in wildlife.

“The Service will use the coming fiscal year to maximize the efficiency of our programs for wildlife and our customers across the board,” said Greg Sheehan, the Service’s Principal Deputy Director. “As we continue to celebrate successes in the recovery of species, we look forward to welcoming more Americans to enjoy the bounty of our nation’s wild places.”

The FY19 budget includes the President’s continued focus on the following priorities:

Conserving our Land and Water:

Through the National Wildlife Refuge System, the Service continues the American tradition, started by President Theodore Roosevelt in 1903, of protecting fish and wildlife and their habitats and providing opportunities for hunting, fishing and other outdoor recreation to all Americans. The proposed FY19 funding level for the Refuge System is $473.1 million.

A total of $211.8 million is proposed to implement the Endangered Species Act and related programs, of which $80.8 million is dedicated to the recovery of threatened and endangered species including five-year species reviews and delistings and downlistings.

The Budget also acknowledges the significant threat that invasive species pose to native plants and wildlife, in addition to infrastructure. For example, species such as Asian carp, quagga and zebra mussels, and sea lamprey cost our economy billions of dollars annually through the damages they impose on economically valuable infrastructure and fisheries. The Administration proposes $14.3 million in funding for programs that focus on preventing the introduction and spread of aquatic, invasive species.

Expanding Outdoor Recreation and Access:

The FY19 budget request advances the implementation of Secretarial Order 3347, Conservation Stewardship and Outdoor Recreation, which calls for advancing conservation stewardship – through improving game and habitat management – and increasing outdoor recreation opportunities, particularly for hunters, anglers and sportsmen. In FY19, the Service will focus on opening additional acres of national wildlife refuges to new hunting and fishing opportunities and on aligning regulations with the states to better increase access and strike a regulatory balance.

In addition to maintaining its commitment to high quality fish and wildlife habitat and outdoor recreation, the Budget requests a total of $46.3 million to support sustainable management of waterfowl and other birds that are enjoyed by millions of hunters, photographers and wildlife enthusiasts each year, including $7.3 million for migratory bird monitoring and $3.2 million for the Service’s aviation program.

Modernizing our Organization and Infrastructure for the Next 100 Years:

Included in the request for the National Wildlife Refuge System is $135.5 million to invest in facilities and infrastructure managed by the Service. Of this, $41.0 million is to address the backlog in deferred maintenance.

In addition, $19.3 million is requested for maintenance of national fish hatcheries, which stock sport and subsistence fish for states and tribes and also propagate and release endangered aquatic species to aid in their recovery. An additional $50.0 million in funding is proposed for national fish hatchery operations.

Protecting our People and the Border:

Refuge law enforcement efforts support U.S. border protection wherever the border lies alongside or near national wildlife refuges. Refuge law enforcement officers provide assistance to and protection for refuge visitors, while working to prevent wildlife poaching and other activities that harm our refuge resources. A total of $38.0 million is proposed to fund these efforts.

The Service’s International Affairs program is funded at $14.5 million, and includes resources needed to combat wildlife trafficking. The Service’s work to eradicate illegal wildlife trade complements multi-agency law enforcement efforts to reduce associated international, organized crime. The program provides grants and technical assistance for the international conservation of endangered and threatened species.

Additionally, the Service’s Office of Law Enforcement, which contributes significantly to the multi-agency effort to combat wildlife trafficking and protects America’s wildlife from poaching, is funded at $69.5 million.

Generating Revenue and Utilizing our Natural Resources:

The budget includes $98.8 million to facilitate planning and consultation that will support energy and infrastructure development, which supports economic recovery and job creation in the United States. Timely evaluations of proposed infrastructure, energy, and other development projects contribute to job creation and economic growth. This funding will allow the Service to expedite project reviews and work with developers on appropriate mitigation and avoidance measures.

The President’s FY19 budget proposal for the Department of the Interior supports his commitment to create jobs, provide outdoor recreation through hunting and fishing, facilitate energy development and support law enforcement needs. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Congressional Budget Justification is available here: https://www.fws.gov/budget/201...%20Justification.pdf

The Department of the Interior oversees one-fifth of the nation's land and the entire Outer-Continental Shelf. The Department is charged with overseeing energy development on federal lands and waters, grazing allotments and timber sales, water conservation and delivery, upholding tribal trust responsibilities, conservation of wildlife and habitat, and maintaining access for recreation throughout public lands, among other priorities.


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Indian schools? What that’s got to do with USFW budget/financing?
What about other poor rural school districts in rural states?
Politics...Politics...Politics
You would always think, what’s good for goose is good for gander
I so sick of all this pandering to all these “ special groups “ attachment bills...


" Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins.
When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar.
Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan
PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move...

Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies...
Only fools hope to live forever
“ Hávamál”
 
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Proposals are one thing, the final product another.

Dave
 
Posts: 2086 | Location: Seattle Washington, USA | Registered: 19 January 2004Reply With Quote
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Protecting sure as Hell does not equate to more access for sportsmen.

Words matter.

Jeff
 
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Baker458,
You made your point, I stand corrected! beer

On the real side, I lost all respect for USFW when they pulled the wool over our eyes and released way more wolves than they professed in the Pacific NW...The wolf program was a huge lie from the beginning in that Idaho never had those big Alaskan wolves to start with, they had smaller gray wolves according to state biologist..The states were all but blackmailed into the program it seems...A no wolves, no fed money is my guess.. Its amazing what a bunch of fat lazy band aid prone politicians stoked with martinis can do with any program..


Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120

rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
 
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Originally posted by boarkiller:
Indian schools? What that’s got to do with USFW budget/financing?
What about other poor rural school districts in rural states?
Politics...Politics...Politics
You would always think, what’s good for goose is good for gander
I so sick of all this pandering to all these “ special groups “ attachment bills...


I was born, raised, and still live on a reservation in Nebraska. Spend most of my vacation time traveling to other reservations to hunt and fish. Spend an afternoon with me on the rez, and I'll show you things that will make your head spin. High schools with indoor pools and astro-turfed football stadiums that aren't even the correct size for the 8-man game played on them (not enough players for a full team). The biggest new buildings, best supplied and supported, and highest paying school districts are in Indian communities in our area. Probably not the same every where. The big Gov answer to a problem is to just throw more of your cash at it. Big fancy schools that kids do not graduate from. If you call out the waste and fraud your labeled a racist. It will not get better. If dump trucks of cash kept showing up at your door, would you start making calls to get them stopped, or just find new ways to spend it?
 
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I can guarantee you most of this money will find its way back into re-election campaigns for the whores who voted for it.


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