Zimbabwe what now

08 December 2017, 05:11

LHeym500

Zimbabwe what now

Since the Zimbabwean bloodless coup has fallen from the headlines here what if anything is happening.

Life as normal, move along nothing to see here, or the cold hard hand of fate is taking Zimbabwe by the throat.

08 December 2017, 05:26

larryshores

Lots of things. Off the top of my head:

1-new president
2-return of a farm to a white man
3-substantially modify the policy of requiring a black owner
Of at least 51% of most businesses. Certain mining is exempted.
4- Announced crackdowns on corruption with some high profile arrests.
5- Announcement of protection of foreign investment.
6- announced review of parastatals that are not profitable .
7-Numerous things discussed to get economy moving.

08 December 2017, 06:15

cal pappas

Friends whom I email weekly tell me all is fine, they are surviving the cash shortage, and the thought for the future is all positive.
I will be there in July for a two weeks vacation after a hunt in South Africa.
Cal

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08 December 2017, 06:32

LHeym500

Mr. Cal: If you will, please share with us your obserwhen you get back home.

08 December 2017, 07:45

fulvio

quote:
Originally posted by LHeym500:
Mr. Cal: If you will, please share with us your obserwhen you get back home.

7 months is a long way away but if the Crocodile continues on the current path, the future for Zimbabwe is looking good.

08 December 2017, 09:39

cal pappas

quote:
Originally posted by LHeym500:
Mr. Cal: If you will, please share with us your obserwhen you get back home.

Will be more than pleased to do so.
Cal

08 December 2017, 14:03

ijl

Business as usual in Zim. And better. Not really that much has changed politically, but don't be put off hunts here next year.

09 December 2017, 00:44

jack steenson

this guy was in bed with Uncle Bob since Zim began. I'm cautiously optimistic but I really don't expect more change. rather more of the same sugar coated. A communist black government is just that regardless of who leads it.

09 December 2017, 01:17

Nakihunter

https://www.bloomberg.com/news...under-new-government

Not sure if this is just window dressing for the moment or a real shift in fundamental policy & economic infrastructure

09 December 2017, 01:20

K Evans

The new President did send a letter dated 6 December 2017 to President Trump explaining the need for American hunters to help manage their elephant population. I have a copy but can't get it to post.

09 December 2017, 01:54

ledvm

Here is the letter from the President Mnangagwa to President Trump

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
J. Lane Easter, DVM

A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.

09 December 2017, 03:32

7kongoni

quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
Here is the letter from the President Mnangagwa to President Trump

I'm Lovin' This!

09 December 2017, 04:01

Safari2

Great letter!

09 December 2017, 04:14

LHeym500

I cannot get the letter to open. I am hopeful for Zimbabwe. I do not expect them to turn into S.Korea, but I am hopeful the new President will deal as a rational actor, and a realize a prosperous and stable Zimbabwe, relatively speaking, we see him become prosperous and stable.

I would like to see a commitment to protect foreign investment, so that maybe the US will feel like competing with China.

09 December 2017, 04:20

larryshores

He has made a commitment to protect foreign investment.

09 December 2017, 04:37

ledvm

Letter opens in Drop Box

09 December 2017, 05:31

sevenmagltd.

Is it possible they have all learned a lesson from the previous years?? I will be cautiously optimistic.
Thanks for posting!

09 December 2017, 07:41

Saeed

May be they have, and that old saying might be true.

It takes a thief to catch a thief??

09 December 2017, 17:48

larryshores

Hopefully, he is smart enough to realize that the country has been bled about as much as it can be bled . They will all be better off with a recovery.

09 December 2017, 18:16

Mark Clark

The Letter sounds like it was written by someone from this forum.

10 December 2017, 02:19

ledvm

I received the letter from Conservation Force. Some people tell me it is fake. I emailed John and Regina to see if they can vouch for authenticity. I will report.

10 December 2017, 05:35

LHeym500

I got the letter to open. As to it’s authentication, I have no idea, but I hope it is true.

Does anyone think or heard if white Zimbabweans will be invited or allowed to participate in this new regime?

10 December 2017, 06:47

fulvio

While the context of the letter appears very appealing, IMO its wishful thinking and trending as fake news.

Its way too early for Mnangagwa to start talking about Elephant Conservation and Import Permits to the USA when there are other far more important issues in attendance.

12 December 2017, 05:57

ledvm

I was told again today, from an extremely reliable source, that the letter was real. I have way of knowing except what I was told.

12 December 2017, 07:21

Saeed

quote:
Originally posted by fulvio:
While the context of the letter appears very appealing, IMO its wishful thinking and trending as fake news.

Its way too early for Mnangagwa to start talking about Elephant Conservation and Import Permits to the USA when there are other far more important issues in attendance.

Like making sure he transfer more money into his own personal account, just like his predecessor

13 December 2017, 05:28

Neil Duckworth

I think it is fair to say that we are all cautiously optimistic due to our past history but so far the change has been an unbelievable breath of fresh air with some very positive moves and statements made by the new President. All we can hope is that this sensible approach to rebuilding Zim continues. Zimbabwe is very broken and one would hope that the new President uses this opportunity to encourage investment and economic reform. So far several farms have already been given back to white farmers, there is noticeable drive by govt to cut unnecessary spending and to tidy up all aspects of Zimbabwe. Let's pray it continues.

13 December 2017, 05:57

LHeym500

Have white been invited to form the new government or allowed to obtain government positions even on local leveL?

Has any legislative or constitutional changes been proposed to prevent the the arbitrary land seizures and redistribution?

13 December 2017, 06:41

Saeed

quote:
Originally posted by Neil Duckworth:
I think it is fair to say that we are all cautiously optimistic due to our past history but so far the change has been an unbelievable breath of fresh air with some very positive moves and statements made by the new President. All we can hope is that this sensible approach to rebuilding Zim continues. Zimbabwe is very broken and one would hope that the new President uses this opportunity to encourage investment and economic reform. So far several farms have already been given back to white farmers, there is noticeable drive by govt to cut unnecessary spending and to tidy up all aspects of Zimbabwe. Let's pray it continues.

I certainly hope you are right Neil.

Zimbabwe and its people have suffered more than enough injustice.

13 December 2017, 20:05

nopride2

All most of us can do is cross out fingers and hope for the best.

Dave

13 December 2017, 21:44

Kathi

https://www.foreign.senate.gov...-of-zimbabwe-121217p

Yesterday there was a Senate Hearing, The Future of Zimbabwe.

At approximately the 48 minute mark, Senator Udall discusses with the Honorable Stephanie Sullivan of the U.S. State Department trophy hunting of lions and elephants in Zimbabwe.