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As we hunters we need to take more seriously our responsibility to teach young hunters to respect the animals that they shoot. There is no respect shown to the animal in this photo.

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Is that Jerry Sandusky next in line???




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Posts: 1446 | Location: El Campo Texas | Registered: 26 July 2004Reply With Quote
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What if the new hunter's first kill is not a buck or ram but a doe? What does he sink his teeth into then?

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Posts: 1270 | Location: Bridgeport, Tx | Registered: 20 May 2005Reply With Quote
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I think its disguisting and looks like something only a drunk moron would do.

Antis would have a field day with this. I would not want to be in the same camp or even near it with anyone that would do this or let their kids do this.
I could only imagine what kind of disguisting stuff the parents would do behind closed doors


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Probably a "tradition" best kept within a tight-knit family circle.

Like the gene pool.
 
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Both photos are disturbing. Wish I had not clicked on this thread.


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Posts: 19754 | Location: The LOST Nation | Registered: 27 March 2001Reply With Quote
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I hope that photo doesn't get out in about 10 years when he starts dating.

Tacky to say the least.


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So it is not a tradition, only something someone wants to make tradition and lay claim to have started it.

Not particularly bright given the subject matter and how the non-committed public would perceive us as a whole.


I have been around a little while, and the above quoted statement nails it in one. I have spent a while in hunting camps here in Texas and have never been in one where a kids face got bloodied over their first deer.

It is stuff like this and some of the stuff on the various hunting programs, that while comical in some aspects, really does not need to be publicized to the world.

Not meaning to stir the pot, but sometimes hunters would be much better served if they took the tance like the commercial about Las Vegas, "What Happens In Hunting Camp, Stays In Hunting Camp". It is great to be proud of a youngster's first kill or anyone's first kill, but it might be a tad better if photos be somewhat more tasteful.

Also, before anyone contests me on that, there are a couple of pictures floating around the www. of me with a dead duck in my mouth. Funny yes.

Does it provide a good representation of a concerned conservation that respects the game he has killed, No.

On the flip side of that, is because of the public opinion or supposed public opinion of hunters and hunting, are we losing the basic concept that making a public display of any kind that we enjoy our sport and have fun doing it, is no longer acceptable, even among other hunters?


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a kids first kill should be one associated with seriousness and achievement not ridicule.

with the ability to kill something ...to take its life comes great responsibility ...


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To reply to the question: This is most certainly NOT a South African tradition. Anyone who claims it is had better be prepared to post some very old photos of dad, grandfathers and great grandfathers, right back to the invention of cameras, to prove his point!

I agree 100 % with Ivan. After the seriousness in the field, where the mentor teaches the kid the facts of life and the responsibilities of actually killing, some blood lines on the face of a youngster to mark his first kill does make him proud to go back to mother, sisters and younger brothers with such "manly blood lines" on his face! Is that a "tradition"? I donno, but have seen it done a few times!


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Posts: 1799 | Location: Soutpan, Free State, South Africa | Registered: 19 January 2004Reply With Quote
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My opinion- poor taste and a total lack of respect towards the animal. After killing an animal, least you can do is show respect.

Thanks for the post Karl. Not sure what you commented, but this does not belong in the field.


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Anyone think this could be a photoshop to get the animal rights looneys wound up and get the hunters upset too? I can not imagine this really happens. Roll Eyes
 
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No respect at all being shown to the animal. I'll never do something like that to my kids. I'm also completely against the blood on the face thing. Didn't do it to my kids and I've never seen it done in any camp I've ever been in.
 
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Pour enough brandy into some of these hill-billy types, and damn near anything can happen.
 
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I have taught many people to shoot, reload or hunt. In more than 30 years of doing this, I have never blooded a first time hunter or tried to make her/him eat anything raw. It is a disgusting habit, designed for the fun of the onlookers and the ridicule of the hunter. Calling it a South African tradition is an insult to South African Boer tradition.
 
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Taking the first big game animal is a right of passage and, as such, should be honored with ceremony and tradition. Personally, I don't find the photo humorous and it is definitely disrespectful to the young hunter and the game that was taken. I wouldn't allow anyone to embarrass my youngster that way nor would I allow my kid to disrespect the animal like that.

I also wonder why some folks have to always link sex with hunting? The two are not related unless someone has serious issues with one or the other.

I also fail to see the humor of the reference to Jerry Sandusky. Pedophiles are definitely NOT funny, ever. I've had a couple briefly as clients, believe me, they aren't funny.
 
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Anyone think this could be a photoshop to get the animal rights looneys wound up and get the hunters upset too? I can not imagine this really happens.


Welcome to the real world, crap like that does happen and some folks are dumb enough to take pictures and post them somewhere.


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Definitely thumbs down.


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None of these funny goings on is my cup of tea.

But, I really cannot see what all the fuss is about.

A kid has his photo taken fooling around an animal he had shot.

So what?

I actually find the silly behaviour of so called hunters on TV shows more objectionable.

The wooping, hi fiving and cheerleading those idiots get up to is so silly.


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The wooping, hi fiving and cheerleading those idiots get up to is so silly.


Agreed!

There is know use for making yourself look like a complete idiot.

Besides, who's readily is this? Its just plain stupid!
 
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That's the stupidest thing I've ever seen.


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I don't think it's a tradition, Just think some nitwit thought it'd look funny. In parts of Europe, I believe they may touch your forehead with a bit of blood, but not stripes and such. I have a friend in Alaska, and we agree that the jumping around and hi-fiving, when an animal is shot, doesn't show any respect for it either.
 
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It is not an African tradition - in this case its a kid with a kid's mind at work who thought it a "cool" thing to do. I would rather criticize his father for allowing, photographing and publicizing it.

However, in parts of Europe and Germany for one, I believe a 'dab' of blood on the hunter's hat or clothing for each accomplished kill, together with a sprig of juniper or whatever other vegetation is readily available. is part of tradition.
 
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I was not designed to have testicles in my mouth, of any species. I teach my children the same thing. Seems like such a simple axiom.
 
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KArl, email me the picture if you can, and let's take this a bit further. It is BullShit! No respect for the animal, or the hunt. I have been against these "traditions" for many years.

It is a pitty our own hunting fraternity has come to this.


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You go Charl, kick some arse. You do know that you will make no impression on brandy pickled brains. Brain cells being few. Cool "Brandewyn maak reg!" hilbily
 
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Pretty red-necked. That is not a tradition, it borders on abuse.
 
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