Very sad. RIP. Condolences to his family
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfr...alls-on-him-20170521

Our Condolences to the Family.

Damn.

Hey i am sorry Big Guy.
Condolences to the family.

And so many people think these things are harmless gentle giants.

Cow herds flat out scare me. The feeling that you are not really in control of the situation creeps in. It impresses me that I am not necessarily in charge here.

Prayers to the family and the PH.

Unbelievable. Truly sad. Was in camp in Mozambique with him, as he and his dogs were hunting leopard for my buddy. What a gentleman and what a genuinely tough man.

Condolences to his family. Wow.

Condolences to his family and friends.

I'm sorry to say I'm already seeing the Liberals circulate the story with their disgusting negativity.liberals are nasty and hipocrytical people with their false moral high ground.

Most sincere condolences

My condolences to his family and friends.

Very sad....condolences for his family and friends.

One more waiting for us on the other side. Thoughts with his family.

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Originally posted by Marty:
Cow herds flat out scare me. The feeling that you are not really in control of the situation creeps in. It impresses me that I am not necessarily in charge here.

You got that right! I know the guys I hunted cape buff with are scared of cow elephants. Buff, lion, leopard aren't a problems. Come across a group of cows, its time to go somewhere else!

Condolences to the survivors.

Very sad, my condolences to all concerned.jc

The Washington Post had along and fairly straight up article about the incident. Good for them.


https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.e39cf4c7dd1e

Not surprisingly, the comments are disgusting.

I am very sorry to hear this. May he Rest In Peace. Prayers to his family and friends. The people commenting negatively on yahoo are disgusting pieces of human excrement.

RIP and prayers for him and his family.

Some of the reactions to this man's death on various forums are atrocious; the posters of same are less-than-human.

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Originally posted by R. Gunn:
The Washington Post had along and fairly straight up article about the incident. Good for them.


https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.e39cf4c7dd1e

Interestingly, the Post closed the comment section.
Cal

My prayers and condolences to his wife and children.

I guess the takeaway from this tragedy, and the one with the crocs, is that even the most experienced don't always survive when dealing with Africa's DG.

May he RIP.

BH63

R.i.P.

Condolences to the family.

It is amazing what my Facebook feed looks like - there is rejoicing from my liberal, conservative, young old and all around the world friends.

Only my hunting friends have said something nice about the ph. Everyone else is cheering a death and for the elephant.

Most read and emailed story on Washingtonpost.com is the ph story.

Strange world.

Mike

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:
Condolences to the family.

It is amazing what my Facebook feed looks like - there is rejoicing from my liberal, conservative, young old and all around the world friends.

Only my hunting friends have said something nice about the ph. Everyone else is cheering a death and for the elephant.

Most read and emailed story on Washingtonpost.com is the ph story.

Strange world.

Mike

Not sure I would still call them friends if they rejoiced of the death of what seemed like a decent fellow. Just consider for a second the depravity it takes to post a comment like that amongst people you know.

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Originally posted by BaxterB:

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:
Condolences to the family.

It is amazing what my Facebook feed looks like - there is rejoicing from my liberal, conservative, young old and all around the world friends.

Only my hunting friends have said something nice about the ph. Everyone else is cheering a death and for the elephant.

Most read and emailed story on Washingtonpost.com is the ph story.

Strange world.

Mike

Not sure I would still call them friends if they rejoiced of the death of what seemed like a decent fellow. Just consider for a second the depravity it takes to post a comment like that amongst people you know.

But it's universal from my rabid right wing friends (non hunting but gun owning friends) to my liberal vegetarians friends, to my niece who just came back from a vacation in Thailand where she spent time caring for elephants to a German shepherd dog group.

Like I said a strange world.

Mike

I don't do Facebook but my wife does. She told me that she unfriended anyone
that posted comments that rejoiced in his demise. i wish the haters were not so confused.

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:

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Originally posted by BaxterB:

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:
Condolences to the family.

It is amazing what my Facebook feed looks like - there is rejoicing from my liberal, conservative, young old and all around the world friends.

Only my hunting friends have said something nice about the ph. Everyone else is cheering a death and for the elephant.

Most read and emailed story on Washingtonpost.com is the ph story.

Strange world.

Mike

Not sure I would still call them friends if they rejoiced of the death of what seemed like a decent fellow. Just consider for a second the depravity it takes to post a comment like that amongst people you know.

But it's universal from my rabid right wing friends (non hunting but gun owning friends) to my liberal vegetarians friends, to my niece who just came back from a vacation in Thailand where she spent time caring for elephants to a German shepherd dog group.

Like I said a strange world.

Mike

You might ask them what if it had been you killed in a like manner?

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Originally posted by mgrem:
I don't do Facebook but my wife does. She told me that she unfriended anyone
that posted comments that rejoiced in his demise. i wish the haters were not so confused.

I wish the haters had no influence or vote, but alas....

Let's not forget that when the pressure is on some here become the antis.All of a sudden they say shooting elephants is a bad thing, shooting lions is a bad thing, shooting leopards is a bad thing, hunting is a bad thing, posting photos with your trophy is a bad thing and they continue hanging out on the African hunting forum.

Very sad indeed!!! Condolences to family and friends!

Best regards, D. Nelson

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Originally posted by BaxterB:

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:

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Originally posted by BaxterB:

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:
Condolences to the family.

It is amazing what my Facebook feed looks like - there is rejoicing from my liberal, conservative, young old and all around the world friends.

Only my hunting friends have said something nice about the ph. Everyone else is cheering a death and for the elephant.

Most read and emailed story on Washingtonpost.com is the ph story.

Strange world.

Mike

Not sure I would still call them friends if they rejoiced of the death of what seemed like a decent fellow. Just consider for a second the depravity it takes to post a comment like that amongst people you know.

But it's universal from my rabid right wing friends (non hunting but gun owning friends) to my liberal vegetarians friends, to my niece who just came back from a vacation in Thailand where she spent time caring for elephants to a German shepherd dog group.

Like I said a strange world.

Mike

You might ask them what if it had been you killed in a like manner?

Then they would all have said

(1) will not happen to you
(2) you should not hunt
(3) this was karma


The one or two that directly messaged me I just said it's the cost of doing business. Then to them I don't have to argue over and over about hunting elephants which I support.

People have this fluffy sense of reality and it shows up on social media. I don't post anything but pictures on Facebook - when I posted a axis hunting picture last year one of my rabid non hunting right wing friends asked why I had to kill a beautiful and animal and could not go by meat at the store like everyone else.

It's tough to fight city hall and I ain't going to get in endless social media wars with emotional friends. Will not get society hunting or me anything.

There have been terrible stories is the regular media especially in U.K. with the press cheering a death.

Mike

I posted the Washington Post link to my FB page along with a RIP. If any of my "friends" respond negatively, I will unfriend them. This man was a true professional and his memory should not be besmirched by idiots.

In the last couple of years, I have seen things I have never thought I would see. Let me name a few:

1- Cheering the death of hunters.
2- Attacking those who have different political views.
3- Destroying the property of others because you were upset at the results of an election.
4- Publically funded universities with riots or near riots because students were not happy with speakers.
5- Being harassed because I bought a bear license.

The list goes on and on and on.......

There is serious mental illness in the world, far more than I ever thought possible.

There might be some people that I might be happy to see die. I would collectively call them criminals, the worst of the worst. There are people that I seriously dislike in this world. Hillary for example. I would not cheer her death. I don't like her aide Huma, nor do I like her politics but I feel awful for her for what she has had to endure from her whack job husband.

From what I see on TV I am beginning to wonder if I am the odd one.

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The Washington Post had along and fairly straight up article about the incident. Good for them.

Trump has an effect on The Liberal Media!!!

They closed the comments because of The Cheering Liberals. They are DISGUSTING!!!

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Originally posted by Slider:

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The Washington Post had along and fairly straight up article about the incident. Good for them.

Trump has an effect on The Liberal Media!!!

They closed the comments because of The Cheering Liberals. They are DISGUSTING!!!

I would argue the best way for someone against hunting to get an article to spread widely is to write a level-headed article about a very contentious subject. That way a) it will be carried by a large media company (check), b) it will be shared widely (check), c) it will bring attention to an activity that many want to stop (check), d) it gives the writer plausible deniability as to his intentions (check). Not really sure who won on that one. I do not know the writer's proclivities.

I've seen some pretty disgusting posts here when a non-hunter gets killed by a wild animal. It's not charming or fair from either direction.

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Originally posted by ForrestB:
I've seen some pretty disgusting posts here when a non-hunter gets killed by a wild animal. It's not charming or fair from either direction.

I have to agree Forest. We can't be issuing Darwin awards and out of the gene pool statement when a non hunter is killed by a animal.

Social media has bred a brutal sense of make believe justice in people's mind. Just type karma and elephant in Facebook search and the post are sickening.

Mike

I will also echo my condolences to his family.


If I may offer a very tiny positive out of this very sad event. I had several colleagues come up to me yesterday and ask about elephant hunting since they know I've hunted in Africa before and have another trip planned next year. It has given me a good opportunity to provide information to them about the benefits of hunting elephants and in a Africa in general. Got plenty of the usual bleeding heart responses, but also some open minds who were willing to listen. Not the way I would have chosen to start the conversation, but at least people are asking questions and seeking information.

We are ill-equipped to have an informed conversation with those that make the sort of statements mentioned above. More often than not we simply match their emotional outburst with one of our own then sit back smugly feeling like we have set them straight. The reality is that each time we fall a little further behind in the debate.

We would all be better served if the organizations that support hunting, SCI, DSC and others, did a better job of arming us with the information to have informed conversations with the vast majority of those that have open minds. In the absence of those organizations stepping up, pick up three books and read them to arm yourself, (i) Elephant Conservation by Ron Thomson, (ii) Game Changer by Glen Martin, and (iii) What I Tell You Three Times is True by Ian Parker.

Condolences to the man's friends and family.