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12 December 2009, 21:56
billrquimby
dogs, bows illegal for Ugandan sitatunga
Ted Gorsline, who now is working in Uganda, has asked me to warn AR members that using dogs, salt, bait or bows and arrows to hunt sitatunga is illegal under that country’s game laws.

Gorsline said at least one U.S. booking agent is promoting hunts using dogs and bait for sitatunga in Uganda.

Ted is concerned that American clients could be jailed in Uganda or discover later they’re in violation of our Lacey Act when they return to the States with sitatungas that were taken illegally.

He said one of his clients recently shot the first legal Sesse Islands sitatunga in 45 years with him -- after 11 days of sitting on a machon.

Bill Quimby
14 December 2009, 07:03
Kathi
45 years!!! Who is the lucky hunter???

Any photo available to post???

Congratulations to hunter and PH.


Kathi

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14 December 2009, 13:55
Anders
If I remeber right there's been a couple taken now.. Isn't it Steve Kobrine who's been organizing these hunts?
I think at least Jim Shockey has shot one..


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14 December 2009, 13:56
Anders
Yeah.. Found it.. Here's a link to The hunting report


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14 December 2009, 20:47
mboga biga bwana
Sure Steve Kobrine will tell us the other side of the story...


Seloushunter


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14 December 2009, 21:22
Charles_Helm
Good to see that Mr. Gorsline is still working. I believe he ran into trouble posting here some time ago and dropped off the site. Some kind of computer issue I think.


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14 December 2009, 21:47
billrquimby
Oops. Ted did not say the sitatunga was taken on the Sesse Islands. This was my goof, and I take full responsibility and apologize.

He has since sent me a long note, and I've asked him for permission to post it here in its entirity. Charles Helm is correct. Ted was banned from posting on AR. I'm not certain of the reason.

Bill Quimby
14 December 2009, 21:52
Charles_Helm
I think at the time there was some dispute (by DRG perhaps) over whether he was banned or had problems with his computer. I believe he may have been in Germany at the time.

I enjoyed his hunting posts. He is on Steve Scott's new show from time to time, mostly old Kilombero footage I think.


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14 December 2009, 23:44
Kathi
http://www.africahunting.com/m...e=viewarticle&id=190


What about the use of dogs? My understanding was this is a LEGAL practice.


Kathi

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15 December 2009, 00:43
billrquimby
Here is Ted's latest email to me. With it, I am backing out of this. -- Bill Quimby

Dear Bill,

I am just back from Uganda for an hour and Kaka tells me the shit has already hit the fan. No worries. The info I sent to you is accurate and what you posted is accurate except the sitatunga we got was shot at Lake Kacheerea and not on the Sesse Islands as you said in your e-mail.

But you have very definitely done American hunters a favour because they could get nailed under the Lacey Act.

The best independant source (not an agent) of info about the Uganda game laws is Nicky Blunt who hunted Uganda for years and who now lives in Scotland and it was he who first warned me about hunting with dogs because I assumed from the reports that have been posted that it must be legal. Nicki told me it was ilegal to hunt with dogs and Kaka only confirmed what Nicky had said.

I see on AR that Kathy Climes wants to see the sitatunga photo. I can get it but since I am banned on AR I will have to post it on another forum such as Nitro express.com.

Another one of our clients also got a 48.5 hard bossed old buffalo and I will ask him if we can post the picture. Its by far the best buffalo taken in Uganda since hunting re-opened.

VBR, Ted
15 December 2009, 01:24
Charles_Helm
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Another one of our clients also got a 48.5 hard bossed old buffalo and I will ask him if we can post the picture. Its by far the best buffalo taken in Uganda since hunting re-opened.



This I would like to see. Cool


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15 December 2009, 03:30
Niko62
Here is a story by Peter Flack that might be of interest to you guys


http://www.africahunting.com/m...&highlight=Sitatunga
15 December 2009, 18:18
Philip A.
Hunting with a bow is not illegal in Uganda.

The Wildlife Act vests authority in the Executive Director of Uganda Wildlife Authority (UWA) as regards the limitations on arms/specifications/calibers to be used for hunting.

Since Uganda is just reopening sport hunting, many regulations are still not fully defined.

The Uganda Wildlife Act was rewritten in 2000, after the National Parks and the Game Departments were scrapped and replaced with UWA.

Old rules and regulations often have been modified or do not apply anymore.

There are no provisions for or against bowhunting. Therefore, UWA treats each request for a bow hunt on a per case basis, pending the publication of final guidelines.

Hunting with dogs is not allowed, most probably because this is one of the favorite hunting methods for many poachers.


Philip