Over 9'long and 254 pounds ?????? Kind of hard to believe.

Looks like it is hanging from a hook through the pelvis. Great way to hang a carcass to remove leg meat BTW.

I am wondering if that photo is genuine. The size and weight ratio appears a bit odd to me.

What bodypart is that leopard hanging from?

Want some tobasco sauce with that crow? Since I have to eat a lot of it in my life, i've learned a little seasoning helps choke it down.
JCN

That's the biggest, fattest, big-headed and haunched leopard I have ever seen or heard tell of.

Looks like a maneless, spotted lion!

Good God, that is a monster leopard.

Maybe the guy in the picture is actually a pygmy?

Actually that does look one huge Leopard and personally I can believe those figures.

I am assuming the Leopard has not been gutted and therefore its weight will very much depend on what and when it last eat. As to the length, the report does not say whether it was measured "between the sticks" or "over the curves"...

To be honest, the figures mean little to me, the photograph says it all..

We should also remember in the days before antibiotics even comparitively minor stratches from a leopard were onften fatal would to blood poisoning;even today it can be an issue in some circumstances. All in all the PH is very lucky to have survived...

Regards,

Pete

Deerdogs,



The picture in the magazine is much better than my scanned copy. From what I can tell, the original picture looks genuine. The guy holding the chains is a few feet behind the leopard (easier to see that in the original picture).







Pete,



According to the story, the PH had been on antibiotics (from a previous dental problem) for several days before the leopard attack. So he had almost no issue with infection.



Regards,



Terry

Terry,

I wonder what the out come would have been if the PH had been a day or two away from treatment or was unable to take antibiotics for some reason? I have often wondered just how extensive a first aid kit is available in some of the more remote camps or are there legally set standards for this sort of thing to do with the licensing?

Regards,

Pete

Please, nobody turn me in for copyright infringement.







The 9 feet includes the tail (nose to tip of tail measurement).

Pete,



Fortunately, he was only 3 hours from Kimberly, RSA. I don't know to what extent the law spells out the contents of the outfitters' first aid box.



Here is that world record leopard from Atcheson & Sons website I posted earlier. He's big kitty. I would like to see these two cats side-by-side.







Regards,



Terry

I just experienced first hand a similar issue with a black bear that was supposed to be dead. Well it wasn't and it was waiting for us.

Fortunately, no one ended up mangled.

No, it wasn't my bear.

Terry,



When you say it is a world record, is that based on the skull measurement or some other measurement? Do you know what the second one weighted?



Just as a point of comparison, I have posted the pic below which many people I am sure have already seen...







The guy in the picture is of course JJHack and apparently the picture has made it onto snopes.com!



Anyway, JJ had this to say abbout the mountain lion:



"The lion weighs about 200 pounds . Just for a reference in the photo, I'm 5'10" tall and 175 pounds. The lion makes me look much smaller then he is! The stomach was empty as well. A Lion with a full belly could have as much as 30 pounds or more in his belly. I have filled a 5 gallon pail with elk meat from a lion stomach which was much smaller then this one, last year"



Regards,



Pete

Terry,

If you have a particular interest in leopards, you might be interested in the book

"The Leopard in India- A natural history" by JC Daniel.

It covers all aspects including data from Rowland Ward plus other items published by hunters.

Scanning the book again, it would seem that an 8' leopard was an exceptional but not unheard of animal for India.

If we allow that African Leopards are generally considered bigger on average than those found in India and the fact alot depends upon just how the animal was measured,I find that that figure of 9' quite believeable...

regards,

Pete

Pete,



They didn't give weight on that Zambian cat, just skull measurement.



Regards,



Terry



P.S.

I have seen a really good fake of JJ's pic where someone "enhanced" the size of that cougar. I can't remember, is the picture above the true pic or the "enchanced" version?



I went back and found the old post where I had the two different pics of that cougar side-by-side. Unfortunately, I had not saved the pics (just copied the URL from someone else)and whoever had those pics no longer has them on their websites.

Terry,

JJ posted this photo and the write up a couple of years back on another forum, so I can only assume its the genunie one.

I do know the photo took on a life of its own on the net and I have subsecquently seen it attribuated to various people from a number of different States.

Regards,

Pete

This photo was probably taken the next day. What is interesting is the cat probably looked longer the day before.

I noticed on my cat he was much smaller the next morning. The muscles contract making him a bit fatter and quite a bit shorter.

This is a dang big kitty!

That is why my Ph carries a 416rem mag as a follow up gun.. For leopard...Even one bad shot will do a lot of stunning...

I wish the best for the Ph and family...I think infection is the bigger problem here...

Mike

Perhaps it was a jaguar on vacation.

The cat shadow is to the left, as would be the skinners. The skinners shadow would fall behind the cat.