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So I was wondering what changed in African hunting since Peter Flack's Safari Guide II which was published in 2010 I believe. (Excluding COVID)

The obvious I believe CAR is no longer huntable and Benin is there one operator left

I think I saw someone offering hunts in Chad which would be new.
 
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CAR is still open.
 
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I've been waiting to see if there is going to be an updated issue but I guess not much as changed.
 
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Would have to be someone else. Peter Flack seems to be out of the gun writing business now.

I don't remember the details of why that was, I enjoy his writing.
 
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Would have to be someone else. Peter Flack seems to be out of the gun writing business now.

I don't remember the details of why that was, I enjoy his writing.


Peter Flack was never a Gun Writer

Just a Couple of weeks ago he was bringing out his Brand New Hunting Book https://www.peterflack.co.za/h...ing-the-hippotrages/


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I think I watch a video he made years ago.

I did not think much of it.


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Would have to be someone else. Peter Flack seems to be out of the gun writing business now.

I don't remember the details of why that was, I enjoy his writing.


Peter Flack was never a Gun Writer

Just a Couple of weeks ago he was bringing out his Brand New Hunting Book https://www.peterflack.co.za/h...ing-the-hippotrages/


Maybe we have different definitions of what a gun writer is. I have read a few of his books, he isn't the best writer but he writes about firearms, ammunition and hunting. Also watched a few of his DVDs and he seems pretty knowledgeable.

For someone not chasing a Weatherby he has taken the vast majority of African wildlife in all huntable countries in his life time. An admireable feat if nothing else.
 
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Personally, I miss Peter. I'm sorry he bowed out. He's a gentleman and I enjoyed seeing him every year in Dallas. I think I have all of his books. His wife is a wonderful lady as well.
 
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I guided Peter during his Zambia research for the book. Not much has changed in Zambia.


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So I was wondering what changed in African hunting since Peter Flack's Safari Guide II which was published in 2010 I believe. (Excluding COVID)

The obvious I believe CAR is no longer huntable and Benin is there one operator left

I think I saw someone offering hunts in Chad which would be new.



CAR is open and huntable we still operating there.

Yes one company is offering big game hunting in Chad
 
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I guided Peter during his Zambia research for the book. Not much has changed in Zambia.


Andrew, elephant hunting in Luangwa has made a comeback it seems like.
 
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I talk to Peter regularly. He is retired and is spending his time on his website/blogs/articles. He is writing a series for the DSC magazine. He recently took over the leadership of African Outfitter, but that has folded as a key investor pulled out.

He still is passionate about ethics, hunting and writing even though has retired from hunting.

His website is the best place to keep up with him.

BTW his new book on Sable, etc is outstanding, as you would expect.
 
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To answer the original question -

Since 2010, much has changed.

1. Importation is harder, more expensive.

2. CITES and our USFWS has hammered us on elephant, lion, leopard, giraffe and others. Trump was no help here.

3. US Customs has turned the gun inspection/return to US into a 2hr ordeal at most airports.

4. Prices are double at least from 2010.

5. Covid has helped/hurt hunting. Less hunters means more animals on quota. Less hunters means the less operators as the cash crunch has hurt.

6. Agents are scrambling a bit more as they have not been able to confirm many of the outfits "on the ground". Travel prevents this. The shows are less attended, so getting info is harder.

7. Zim, Nambia, Zambia, Ethiopia are much the same. RSA is a bit harder due to airport issues and several outfits going out of business. Moz - I do not know. Tanz - the landscaped changes daily, hard to know. Cameroon - seems somewhat the same, still chaotic.

I would use the 2010 book for info about the countries but you will need to do a lot of due diligence on where you go. Talk to PH's and hunters who have been there recently.
 
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it will be interesting to see who the new operators are under the new tender of prime concessions in Zambia.


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So I was wondering what changed in African hunting since Peter Flack's Safari Guide II which was published in 2010 I believe. (Excluding COVID)

The obvious I believe CAR is no longer huntable and Benin is there one operator left

I think I saw someone offering hunts in Chad which would be new.


I think more countries have actually opened since then.

Chad is open but expensive for basically a kudu hunt.

Sudan and Morocco are open.

CAR is open (wouldn’t take a chance especially since Cameroon is still open and relatively safer.

Benin and Burkina are open but once again security is a major concern.

Quite a few western countries are open for smaller duiker species (Gabon, Senegal, Ghana, liberia)

Congo is open for good bongo/forest buffalo hunting.

TZ and Zambia are just getting better and better game number wise and concessions open for hunting.

Cameroon is a great option for Giant Eland (hunted there Jan 2022. Didn’t feel unsafe or anything. Stayed two nights in Douala walked around etc)

Somaliland ( Not Somalia!) was open a couple years ago. Not sure now.

Overall I think we are in a better place than say when Peter hunted.
 
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Here's my answer:

Don't blink.


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Since 2010 ..... we are all older and wiser! AR remains a great place to hang out. Prices are a lot higher. A lot of fly by nights have come and gone but the good ones are still there!

And my gun room has grown significantly rotflmo

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In our modern society, 11 years can mean a lot of drastic change.

I think actual hunting has not changed as much as we think it has - changes happen every year.

Countries change their rules and regulation continuously.

Probably the biggest change is financial.

Everything is so much more expensive now.


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So I was wondering what changed in African hunting since Peter Flack's Safari Guide II which was published in 2010 I believe. (Excluding COVID)

The obvious I believe CAR is no longer huntable and Benin is there one operator left

I think I saw someone offering hunts in Chad which would be new.


I think more countries have actually opened since then.

Chad is open but expensive for basically a kudu hunt.

Sudan and Morocco are open.

CAR is open (wouldn’t take a chance especially since Cameroon is still open and relatively safer.

Benin and Burkina are open but once again security is a major concern.

Quite a few western countries are open for smaller duiker species (Gabon, Senegal, Ghana, liberia)

Congo is open for good bongo/forest buffalo hunting.

TZ and Zambia are just getting better and better game number wise and concessions open for hunting.

Cameroon is a great option for Giant Eland (hunted there Jan 2022. Didn’t feel unsafe or anything. Stayed two nights in Douala walked around etc)

Somaliland ( Not Somalia!) was open a couple years ago. Not sure now.

Overall I think we are in a better place than say when Peter hunted.



Gabon is closed but some people are still selling it...
 
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Originally posted by Singleshot03:
So I was wondering what changed in African hunting since Peter Flack's Safari Guide II which was published in 2010 I believe. (Excluding COVID)

The obvious I believe CAR is no longer huntable and Benin is there one operator left

I think I saw someone offering hunts in Chad which would be new.


I think more countries have actually opened since then.

Chad is open but expensive for basically a kudu hunt.

Sudan and Morocco are open.

CAR is open (wouldn’t take a chance especially since Cameroon is still open and relatively safer.

Benin and Burkina are open but once again security is a major concern.

Quite a few western countries are open for smaller duiker species (Gabon, Senegal, Ghana, liberia)

Congo is open for good bongo/forest buffalo hunting.

TZ and Zambia are just getting better and better game number wise and concessions open for hunting.

Cameroon is a great option for Giant Eland (hunted there Jan 2022. Didn’t feel unsafe or anything. Stayed two nights in Douala walked around etc)

Somaliland ( Not Somalia!) was open a couple years ago. Not sure now.

Overall I think we are in a better place than say when Peter hunted.



Gabon is closed but some people are still selling it...


Interesting, I know of an agent and client hunting sitatunga there at this very moment. Also one of the guys in our hunting association hunted there twice in the last year. Got all his trophies back as well.
 
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So I was wondering what changed in African hunting since Peter Flack's Safari Guide II which was published in 2010 I believe. (Excluding COVID)

The obvious I believe CAR is no longer huntable and Benin is there one operator left

I think I saw someone offering hunts in Chad which would be new.


I think more countries have actually opened since then.

Chad is open but expensive for basically a kudu hunt.

Sudan and Morocco are open.

CAR is open (wouldn’t take a chance especially since Cameroon is still open and relatively safer.

Benin and Burkina are open but once again security is a major concern.

Quite a few western countries are open for smaller duiker species (Gabon, Senegal, Ghana, liberia)

Congo is open for good bongo/forest buffalo hunting.

TZ and Zambia are just getting better and better game number wise and concessions open for hunting.

Cameroon is a great option for Giant Eland (hunted there Jan 2022. Didn’t feel unsafe or anything. Stayed two nights in Douala walked around etc)

Somaliland ( Not Somalia!) was open a couple years ago. Not sure now.

Overall I think we are in a better place than say when Peter hunted.



Gabon is closed but some people are still selling it...


Interesting, I know of an agent and client hunting sitatunga there at this very moment. Also one of the guys in our hunting association hunted there twice in the last year. Got all his trophies back as well.


Well I was again in contact with all my friends in Gabon and they all told it's closed. Lee White the Minister of Eau et Foret ( Game department) is again it and I have the confirmation by the director of National Park in Gabon...
 
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So I was wondering what changed in African hunting since Peter Flack's Safari Guide II which was published in 2010 I believe. (Excluding COVID)

The obvious I believe CAR is no longer huntable and Benin is there one operator left

I think I saw someone offering hunts in Chad which would be new.


I think more countries have actually opened since then.

Chad is open but expensive for basically a kudu hunt.

Sudan and Morocco are open.

CAR is open (wouldn’t take a chance especially since Cameroon is still open and relatively safer.

Benin and Burkina are open but once again security is a major concern.

Quite a few western countries are open for smaller duiker species (Gabon, Senegal, Ghana, liberia)

Congo is open for good bongo/forest buffalo hunting.

TZ and Zambia are just getting better and better game number wise and concessions open for hunting.

Cameroon is a great option for Giant Eland (hunted there Jan 2022. Didn’t feel unsafe or anything. Stayed two nights in Douala walked around etc)

Somaliland ( Not Somalia!) was open a couple years ago. Not sure now.

Overall I think we are in a better place than say when Peter hunted.


Mozambique getting better..
 
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So I was wondering what changed in African hunting since Peter Flack's Safari Guide II which was published in 2010 I believe. (Excluding COVID)

The obvious I believe CAR is no longer huntable and Benin is there one operator left

I think I saw someone offering hunts in Chad which would be new.


I think more countries have actually opened since then.

Chad is open but expensive for basically a kudu hunt.

Sudan and Morocco are open.

CAR is open (wouldn’t take a chance especially since Cameroon is still open and relatively safer.

Benin and Burkina are open but once again security is a major concern.

Quite a few western countries are open for smaller duiker species (Gabon, Senegal, Ghana, liberia)

Congo is open for good bongo/forest buffalo hunting.

TZ and Zambia are just getting better and better game number wise and concessions open for hunting.

Cameroon is a great option for Giant Eland (hunted there Jan 2022. Didn’t feel unsafe or anything. Stayed two nights in Douala walked around etc)

Somaliland ( Not Somalia!) was open a couple years ago. Not sure now.

Overall I think we are in a better place than say when Peter hunted.



Gabon is closed but some people are still selling it...


Interesting, I know of an agent and client hunting sitatunga there at this very moment. Also one of the guys in our hunting association hunted there twice in the last year. Got all his trophies back as well.


Well I was again in contact with all my friends in Gabon and they all told it's closed. Lee White the Minister of Eau et Foret ( Game department) is again it and I have the confirmation by the director of National Park in Gabon...


Well I hope their hunt doesn’t turn into a disaster. It’s all being captured on film as well and might air on a very famous TV show!
 
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So I was wondering what changed in African hunting since Peter Flack's Safari Guide II which was published in 2010 I believe. (Excluding COVID)

The obvious I believe CAR is no longer huntable and Benin is there one operator left

I think I saw someone offering hunts in Chad which would be new.


I think more countries have actually opened since then.

Chad is open but expensive for basically a kudu hunt.

Sudan and Morocco are open.

CAR is open (wouldn’t take a chance especially since Cameroon is still open and relatively safer.

Benin and Burkina are open but once again security is a major concern.

Quite a few western countries are open for smaller duiker species (Gabon, Senegal, Ghana, liberia)

Congo is open for good bongo/forest buffalo hunting.

TZ and Zambia are just getting better and better game number wise and concessions open for hunting.

Cameroon is a great option for Giant Eland (hunted there Jan 2022. Didn’t feel unsafe or anything. Stayed two nights in Douala walked around etc)

Somaliland ( Not Somalia!) was open a couple years ago. Not sure now.

Overall I think we are in a better place than say when Peter hunted.



Gabon is closed but some people are still selling it...


Interesting, I know of an agent and client hunting sitatunga there at this very moment. Also one of the guys in our hunting association hunted there twice in the last year. Got all his trophies back as well.


Well I was again in contact with all my friends in Gabon and they all told it's closed. Lee White the Minister of Eau et Foret ( Game department) is again it and I have the confirmation by the director of National Park in Gabon...


Well I hope their hunt doesn’t turn into a disaster. It’s all being captured on film as well and might air on a very famous TV show!


Yes I hope for them... I so they are in Gabon on the FB page
 
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When the Germans basically ran the Selous, from the late 80s or early 90s (I can't remember), to the early-to-mid 2000s, elephants abounded.

When the Germans left, elephant populations were decimated by poaching.

In the blink of an eye.


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I hunted R8 in the Selous in 2008. We saw elephants every day.

Things change in Africa and I really like Peter's books, and he has a great deal of knowledge and good advice for any area. That said, a lot can change in any particular area in 12 years.

I wanted to go back to Simanjiro in March or April, it was awesome in 2012, but I'm told it's not so anymore.
 
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it will be interesting to see who the new operators are under the new tender of prime concessions in Zambia.


Are you bidding on anything this go around?


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it will be interesting to see who the new operators are under the new tender of prime concessions in Zambia.


Are you bidding on anything this go around?


No mate it is more economic to book hunting in these concessions than operate them.


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When the Germans basically ran the Selous, from the late 80s or early 90s (I can't remember), to the early-to-mid 2000s, elephants abounded.

When the Germans left, elephant populations were decimated by poaching.

In the blink of an eye.

So True


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