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Perfect way to form an alliance of sportsmen. That is exactly why the "Joe public" deer hunter feel the way they do about us "Africa hunting elitists" Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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Maybe a better way to say it is that they are under-informed/undereducated on the subject...maybe in need of a PR campaign.  But, they are part of the problem. However, they could be reformed into part of the solution. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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One more time for those slow on the uptake, take a lesson from the NRA. They do not tolerate even the slightest infringement on the rights of gun owners. They understand, apparently as others do not, that acceptance and compromise are defeatist. Any hunter that feels that it is okay to encroach on some hunting so long as it does not affect their hunting, is an idiot. No sense sugar coating it. Mike | |||
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As I have been taught over my years fighting the lion up-list. You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. So maybe there is "sense" in sugar coating it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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This implies all things considered/called hunting are equal. Not true. | |||
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The two posts above clearly evidence the differences between the approach hunters have taken which has resulted in us seeing an increasing infringement of our rights and how the gun owners have fought the fight and been successful over seemingly overwhelming odds. Mike | |||
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You will defend canned lion hunting as hunting when that activity works against the whole? Defend hunting practices that will endanger a species simply because a mark against any hunting is a mark against all hunting? Gun owners lost in CT and NY. Had nothing to do with accepting encroachment, rather being out played. No gun owner I have read interviewed accepts the magazine ban or the AR registration, but they are impotent to push back hard because they have normal lives to lead and do not have the luxury of spending their shrinking incomes on the cause. Like it or not, hunting exists at the pleasure of the non-hunting public. There is NO constitutional right to hunting. Gun laws are fought based on their legality, because there is constitutional protection. The two are not fungible. The elephant example is a perfect one, F&W stopped your ability to hunt elephant in Zimbabwe and Tanzania by perceiving activity of those countries was not helping elephant. No one can hold up a copy of any document and say it protects your rights to hunt elephant. | |||
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Baxter, You speak with such a clarity of vision, I will defer to you on this. I think we see this issue the same. Thanks for your valued contribution. Steve Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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THAT is exactly right! They are NOT idiots. I have friends that have hunted all their lives that where amazed that I was Hunting Elephant and even more so that I could bring the tusks home! Most hunters I know watch Discovery and NatGeo and all you see is the endangered Elephants os "Somewhere". No where do you see the "overpopulated" E, habitat destroying Elephants of Botswana or Kruger............. . | |||
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Exactly! That is why when we had the chance on the lion topic to unite Panthera with hunting...it was a huge step in the right direction. I could never convince SCI and Panthera wanted SCI to be on board if they were going to play a role with hunting. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I'm watching a hunting show right now on NatGeo. It's called Life Below Zero, and this episode (Deadly Grounds) includes a guy hunting for mountain goat on Kodiak, another reloading and hunting moose, and a woman hunting for caribou (she just dropped a caribou with a spine shot). Now they are hunting "for food", but they are "hunting" and call it as such. Did I mention this is on NatGeo? We don't need to apologize, we just need to position hunting in the best possible light, make it look "normal", play our strengths. The anti-hunters spin all the time. | |||
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