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Thank God the poor chap was not bitten by a black puff adder. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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I love made up on the moment statistics...do you have any relevant studies to support that statement?? I have been bitten twice and in neither case did I see the snake till it bit me. Sure wasn't trying to kill it. Birmingham, Al | |||
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Curry remnants on the fangs would have added to the victim's woes, and confused the crap out of the Doctors.  "Quote" I love made up on the moment statistics...do you have any relevant studies to support that statement?? I have been bitten twice and in neither case did I see the snake till it bit me. Sure wasn't trying to kill it."Quote" Happiness does not come from being a bum statistic twice over.  | |||
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I refer to them as snakes (which is a type of reptile) because I find the term serpent a little archaic.  I'm sorry that you have a fear of snakes; many people do but using a line from the Bible as a justification to smite them is a little much. The reason that I quoted Mark and Luke is that there are equally fervent believers that feel that the Bible compels them to handle snakes. If snakes have no redeeming value to mankind why did God feel it necessary to put about 3,000 different species all over the Earth? The vast majority of which don't bite heels. As for rodent control you are probably right as is a documented fact that snakes don't eat mice or rats but instead slither down to the 7-11 for some nachos. So go ahead and keep on smootin' because Jesus told you so. | |||
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I'll still scream like a little girl if I ever run into a Black Mamba, right before I blow it's head, clean off... USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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You mean the somewhat rare variety known as "Bitis arietans nigris"  | |||
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Jorge, I'm with you. Snakes will make me hurt myself and smell bad. Terrified of them. No particular reason just am. A dead snake is a good snake. | |||
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While 'snake phobia' is fully understandable, their presence as another group of God's "unfriendly creatures" just has to be accepted. The open secrets of rocket science in avoiding an unpleasant encounter are: a) to understand your surroundings; likelihood of their presence and subsequent attention as to where you tread or put your hands, and, b)don't mess about trying to pick one up unless you know how and even the, some of the experts still get nailed once in a while  | |||
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Come on chaps a large mamba in battleship grey, glistening like well oiled steel deserves some respect. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Like 30 meters and a flame thrower. Happiness is a warm gun | |||
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NO ! NO! Indus squacus subs refugii Come on chaps a large mamba in battleship grey, glistening like well oiled steel deserves some respect. Like a good pair of Nikes and a 200meter head start ? | |||
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Those of us who live on a daily basis with dangerous snakes know exactly why they evoke a "childlike fear" ... We have lots of brown snakes around, a few red bellied blacks, and that's almost ALL of them. The brown is one of the top 3 in terms of dangerous, the black lesser but would put a rattler to shame. Not romantic names like mamba, the brown, but encountering one makes me jump like an Irish girl wearing tap shoes for about 30 metres ... Then I usually get a gun and kill it. I don't use a shovel, too easy to get struck. In Africa I didn't even think about snakes when walking through the grass, something I am careful about doing here. One day I will wear gaiters for hunting, at home I walk around bare foot ... Snakes do scare me like a child. The big tough guys probably live where the snakes have a child's rattle and American beerlike poison ... BTW Those photos are awful. Since seeing them I'm going to hop around like the whole chorus of Irish tap dancing girlikins! | |||
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NO ! NO! Indus squacus subs refugii  Such finesse ! | |||
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I agree. That is strange. Snakes don't bother me too much. I have a healthy respect for them and typically leave them alone unless encountering them in an area likely to cause a conflict. Spiders on the other hand .... talk about acting like a school girl! | |||
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I may have to try the "dancing around like an Irish school girl with tap shoes" thing while screaming hysterically like a little girl the next time I see a puff adder. | |||
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I have run across more than my share of puff adders. At least they're slow movers. But I did see one swimming across a cold, wide river once. And all this talk of religion has me wondering why the serpent didn't bite Eve when she grabbed the apple? Professional courtesy? Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Scriptus, This is not a puff adder but a rattlesnake bite. Here is the actual website: http://www.rattlesnakebite.org/ While the pics are very real, someone has tampered with the text, here is the actual text from the website, notice how it has been changed: My Rattlesnake Bite Click to see pictures of my snake bite Story On July 21, 2002, just after my 13th birthday, I was bitten by a Northern Pacific rattlesnake (the snake was originally identified as a Western Diamondback rattlesnake, but that species is not found near Yosemite). I was located on a trail in a hiking area near Yosemite National Park, California. The bite occurred when I was sitting on a small boulder at a distance of 4.5 miles from the trailhead with my cabin group at camp. I had my arms dangling at my side, and a 5 foot long rattlesnake bit me in the middle of my left palm. From this point, an amazing rescue took place, taking 4 hours to transport me the 4.5 miles to the trailhead. The camp director had previously called the hospital, and a helicopter was waiting at the trailhead. During the 30 minute helicopter ride I was going in and out of consciousness, having trouble keeping my eyes open. We arrived at the Modesto, CA hospital, where the doctor in the emergency room decided that my case was too severe to treat at that medical center. He told me this, which was the last thing I heard before going unconscious. Although I was unconscious for approximately the next 24 hours, I have heard about the following events from my parents. I was taken from the Modesto hospital to the UC Davis Medical Center in Sacramento, the trauma center for Northern California. My snake bite was determined to be too severe for Modesto to deal with. Starting at the time that I left the Modesto hospital and over the course of the next day or two, I was given 30 vials of antivenin (also called antivenom). At the UC Davis hospital I underwent a fasciotomy, which involved the doctors cutting open my arm from the palm up to about the middle of my biceps. This was to relieve the extreme pressure that had built up in my arm from the rattlesnake venom, making my arm as hard as a rock until the fasciotomy. I spent the next 35 days in the UC Davis hospital, had 8 surgeries performed for cleaning out the dead tissue from my arm, and finally had a skin graft from my leg to close up my arm, which had remained open for 30 days after the fasciotomy until the skin graft surgery. That is 10 surgeries in total at UC Davis. I was released from the hospital on August 24, 2002, had 4 months of intense occupational therapy, and flew to Duke University Medical Center in North Carolina for a follow-up surgery. This was a vascular flap surgery, during which they took a chunk of skin and muscle from my back, attached its blood vessels to the ones in my arm using microsurgery, and then stitched it to my arm. Although 2 emergency surgeries were required within 24 hours on account of blood loss, the vascular flap was a success, and after 6 more months of occupational therapy, my hand had had a significant improvement in mobility from when I left UC Davis and could move each finger only 2-3 millimeters. My hand now has fully mobility and is about 80% as strong as it was before, thanks to my Dad and I resuming our rock climbing after a 1 year break due to the lack of strength in my left hand. I use it for about 90% of the things I used to do with my left hand (I am right handed). 13 surgeries, $700,000 worth of helicopter flights, surgeries, and hospital stays (paid by my insurance of course), and 20 months later, I am very happy with the outcome of this experience and my good fortune of getting through all this without any significant loss. Anyway, even though the email is a fraud never let the truth get in the way of a good religious argument so you guys can get back to fighting about it now. for every hour in front of the computer you should have 3 hours outside | |||
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Man, what an ordeal this fellow went through! | |||
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Hi Mark, as you can see by my introduction, I did receive an unsolicited e-mail with the story which I copied as is in seen at the start of the thread. Besides all the preceeding hooplah, I am glad that the truth is out and that you did make such a good recovery.  Of course you chaps in the USA do not have to look out for puff adders, just old rattlers. Righto chaps, on with the bunfight. | |||
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Scriptus, Just to clarify that I was not the "bitee", it was someone named Justin who was 13 when it happened back in 2002. for every hour in front of the computer you should have 3 hours outside | |||
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My wife who is a vegetarian (for ethical reasons) rather heavily handed dispatched this fine Mozambican Spitting Cobra in our bedroom whilst I was away conducting an AR group hunt. Ironically the lads were bedding down on the same floor a few days earlier.   ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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To Fairgame and the rest of the Africa crew: Living with snakes, and having them visit your bedroom, is a reality in Africa. I am always surprised when I se a PH in sandals, or even barefoot, or when trackers walk without hesitation in high grass, scanning ahead. My closet encounter was a tracker mumbling something and pointing his stick at a curled up puff adder 6 inches from my foot, saying, don't step on it, and carrying on, leaving me frozen. Aren't bites fairly rare (obviously) rare even for locals? Reassure me! I am always thinking of !!SNAKES!! when I am there. The little buggers are seen dangling from trees, laying about, and are everywhere! I think I can hold my own against ex-wives, urban thugs and lawyers, but snakes... ______________________________ "Are you gonna pull them pistols,...or whistle Dixie??" Josie Wales 1866 | |||
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Thanks, Mike! I love those two-for-one jokes...one laugh when I first read it, and a second one when I tell it to my wife and get the hairy-eyeball treatment! John | |||
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i think the "humor" forum would be more appropriate. what a bunch of BS on a thread about snakebite of all things. for awhile i thought i was back in the tent revivals of my youth watching people roll in the aisles and speak in tongues. praise Jesus and send me $15 for a payer cloth- you are absolutely assured to enter HEAVEN OR YOUR MONEY BACK!!! Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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I kill all venomous creatures on sight, if it's possible to do so in a safe manner. (Nitro's point regarding shovels is well taken, imo.) I haven't been biten by a snake, thankfully, though I almost have been on several occasions. But I have been bitten by a brown recluse spider and that was a miserable experience. If a venomous creature that you could have safely killed - or one of it's descendents, for that matter - goes on to attack a child, well that should be on your tree-hugging conscience. And to criticize others for engaging in religious discussions while doing so yourself reveals one to be a hypocrite and an ass. | |||
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Righto chaps, on with the bunfight. YYIIIHAAAA ! !  | |||
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Just in case people don't know, many snakes can strike a distance about two-thirds of their body length, so a six foot snake may be able to strike four feet away. Only a long handled shovel/post digger shovel is probably long enough. | |||
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I used to collect and even import and sell snakes of all kinds more than 30 years ago. I have handled most deadly snakes and while I no longer pick up deadly snakes I still love seeing them. They have very different personalities and for the most part do not want to waste their venom on you but it is they way they protect themselves. that being said it is quite foolish out in the bush to mess with one reason being you will never know how much he zaps you until its to late. It is not worth loss of limbs or life to bother them. I always make a point to try and get a photo and some PH's and all trackers seem to think they can strike much farther than they can, as long as you stay as far away as the length of the snake you will not get tagged they simply can not strike that far, caution do not underestimate how fast they can move towards you though, as a mamba is very fast so give them extra space if you want a photo. | |||
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gerryb interested to know if you have handled all the top line poisonous bastards snakes we have down under. I see Eastern Brown Snakes quite a bit at home here..bad boys,they don't blow your arm up they just kill you. Posts: 87 | Location: Victoria Australia | Registered: 07 September 2002 | |||
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