RJW

What type of 9.3x62 do you trade, like make.

Cheers

Winchester introduced it in the Model 70, at the same time as the .375 H&H. If memory serves, I think that was around 1937. (I think that Remington may also have chambered the round for its rifles but I'm not sure about that.) Ironically, American ammunition manufacturers started producing .300 H&H and .375 H&H ammo around 1925.

The .300 H&H was THE .30 caliber magnum for many years. Winchester's introduction of the .300 Win Mag started the slow "fall from grace" of the .300 H&H in new factory rifle production.

I did find a used Winchester Model 70 XTR (post-64, push feed) in .300 H&H. I bought it as soon as I saw it! Sure, I wish it was a pre-64 but it's a nice rifle and shoots well.

I do not know the history of my rifle as far as what year it was made, etc. I do suspect that it was a special production run since it's a XTR model (later post-64 production) in .300 H&H. I think Winchester pretty much quit chambering the .300 H&H round when they brought out the .300 Win Mag and the new Model 70 (post-64, push feed).

I find the .300 H&H easy to load for and I like the long case neck as opposed to the very short neck on the .300 Win Mag case. The .300 H&H will still do a very fine job. Plus, I too just like the nostalgia factor.

-Bob F.

I like the feeding of that sloping torpedo tube. I like the long neck and the fact that 220 gr. bullets don't interfere with the powder charge and I like the nostalgia of the old girl.

For any practical field purpose it can be handloaded to the same balistics of the rest of the 300's, and does this without the recoil caused by a sharp shoulder so perhaps it's slighty milder in felt recoil to most.

Most Africans prefer the H&H and I believe that is because they tend to like the 220 gr. and heavier bullets (the long neck enhances their use) and they like the big bullets for bushveld hunting, with the option of the 200's for the highveld. Africans tend to like heavier bullets than Americans and they are not so carried away with velocity as Americans, an opinnion I agree with, I like heavy for caliber bullets...

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Ray Atkinson

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I am keeping a eye on the cases as I detected some web thinning with my wire feeler inside the case near the base. I think it may have been caused by the fact that the cases had primer pockets that were too shallow. I reamed the pockets deeper and time will tell.

Ray, What did you mean by a "X" die in another thread?

I never thought of the case shoulder having an effect on recoil. I suppose that's why the .458 Winchester is such a pussy cat.

Both Winchester and Remington included the Holland Super 30 in their ammunition and rifle lines. I remember when my uncle Larry got his .300 H&H Mag Winchester M70. He was teased because the little blacktail deer we hunted were way more suited to a .300 Savage -- which the riest of the family shot.

I remember Remington chambering it in the M721, their long-action predecessor to the M700. I don't recall if it was included in the M725.

jim dodd

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Check this site once in a while and see what comes up.

Guns America 300 H&H

Of all the rifles I have used, it is by far the slickest feeding one I have ever seen. The way it chambers a round is sensual. I am in the process of getting it "cleaned" up, and accurized. As is, it will shoot about 2"@100yds. I know that it can do better.

Ray, I find that the magazine box of the M70 does not facilitate bullets seated out to just off the rifling. A spire point seated to that depth will not fit in the magazine. I guess they were chambered and throated for the 220 and 180 round nose. Powder capacity is not a issue because the case is so large. I will have to find some round nose bullets and see what the seating depth is for them. there is not a problem with not enough powder. Ku-dude

It really is in 99% condition and I have been hesitant to hunt with it due to its condition. However, it is not much fun just having it sit in the safe, I may break down and take it the next time I get to Africa.

I can't think of a better combo than my Pre-64 M70 in 375H&H and my Pre-64 M70 in 300H&H. A classic pair.

Tim

The only draw back to the 300 H&H, like the 404, 375 and a few others is they stretch a little more than the 300 Win. for instance, no big deal to me..but the X dies end that problem..I think they would have to be Special order for the 300 H&H and 404...

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Ray Atkinson

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quote:

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Originally posted by CABirdDog:
Remington chambered the 700 Classic for it back in 83' still a few around.

Check this site once in a while and see what comes up.

Guns America 300 H&H

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Interesting site: I found some nice H&H .300 - I like those older Winch. #70.

And I also searched for and found my old Husky #146 9.3x57 for $575. I bought mine for a hundred here - and that was a bit expensive. One should buy a bunch of them and bring to the US for selling!

Best regards,

Fritz

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