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Ultimate Safari Shotgun
Has thinking advanced since Peter Hathaway Capstick recommended a Winchester Model 12 loaded with N° 1 buckshot? Personally, I thing a pmup action, or even semi-automatic with both a short rifled barrel for DGR (with sights regulated to get a slug or N° 1 buck right on at 15 yards) and long barrel for wingshooting would be ideal. What is the dream gun?
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AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim.
25 May 2005, 17:04
GAHUNTERWell, seeing as RSA and Namibia (Not sure about about the others) do not allow semi-automatics or pumps, I'd say the best safari shotgun is a 3-inch O/U with 3-inch 00-Buck (if you are talking about a wounded cat gun).
At least, that's what my PH thinks.
I didn't know that pump-actions were restricted in South Africa and Namibia which of course limits the world traveller's options. So whether you are an O/U or S/S fan, it justs boils down to loads if you want to use it to follow up a cat. I had just reread the PHC article contained in "Last Horizons" about 00 versus n° 1 which prompted my qestion about loads. PHC says n°1 is better at close ranges and gives his reasoning. I have no experience in the matter and wondered if thinking had evolved in the matter.
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AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim.
25 May 2005, 20:04
AtkinsonI don't think pump guns are restricted anywhere in Africa, only simi autos, but I wouldn't swear to it...
I certainly would not want a slug for following up cats..either No.1 to 00 buckshot..If I want a slug, I'll use a rifle..
Shotgun slugs are miserable killers IMO, as I have seen way too many failures with them...
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
26 May 2005, 00:50
new_guythe ultimate safari shotgun is a 20-ga set of barrels for your double rifle.

One case, two guns.
26 May 2005, 01:30
Tim_WegnerGuys ever heard of "Vang Comp" shotguns?
http://www.vangcomp.com Hans is a great guy that turns out some awesome work! His shotguns shoot 00 buck with the accuracy of a slug gun!
Check out the 7,10,15 & 25 yard pattern results on his website.
Tim
27 May 2005, 01:26
AtkinsonNew Guy,
The problem with that is shotgun firing pins and rifle firing pins are not condusive to each other, so expect a lot of failures to fire with the shotgun shells...unless you can changed them out..better the shotgun fails than the rifle...
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com