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Feeling bored? – Well I hope you won’t after the following.

On Saturday morning I was playing around with fancied bull-fight scenario – proved that some things might go wrong and succeeded in following.

Yes - sticky empty cases do occure, hitting empty chambers with fresh pair of tiny long pencils is just another form of art – ever tried to thread a needle in a hurry? – well see for yourself – have fun – my kids did when they saw it:

Yours trully fights the double

Still I managed to put those venting holes where they should be (so in fact I am quite happy right now):



I figured it out that many things can go wrong and the point is that they will probably go wrong at most inappropriate time. Yes it can be done faster – installing the ejectors, using better suited calibres for reloading i.e. .500/.416 (one should hit those big .500 holes with .416 points much faster), reloading from the shoulder - assuming Mr. Murphy would take a moment off…still I have made my mind on the above and understood that my double is a lovely 1+1 thing and not a mighty 2+2 and since I can’t afford a second double right now and a trusty gun bearers are hard to find these days, I came out with 2 plans:

1. Tree scenario

If there is an appropriate tree nearby - R1 and L1 in fast succession then up the tree...

2. NO Tree scenario

If there wouldn’t be an appropriate tree nearby - R1 – Hail Mary (short version) and L1 where L2 stands on the pic, hoping Mr. Murphy is still on holiday should let me get away with it.
 
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Good shooting Mouse, even though it might have taken you longer than planned to get R2/L2 on their way.

What was the distance you shot at?? 30m, 20m??

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Smiler thanks Mike - it was bit over 20m - converting into buff's value - buff would give me a "box on the ear" in app. 3 seconds so it wouldn't matter anyway Big Grin
 
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Nice shooting mate
 
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nice shooting... i shoot an extractor gun also... and i'm far from any kind or semblance of expert, shot or otherwise... that said, i turn my double up and "dump" the empties... if i think i'm going to need a fast reload i have 2 shells in my left hand , ready to shove them in...


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Mouse good shooting and where did you get those targets.. I'm interested...
Will send you a pm...

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Yeah, so am I.
 
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Nice shooting.

Thats the only way to find out what will go wrong is to shoot fast and practise the reload.

Just as long as you enjoy what you are doing.

And it looks like you do....


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Maybe you should run through some IPSC matches with your doubles - good training.
 
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Eish - there is a war going on on those matches - might help tho it can't exclude an embarasement to happen again Smiler - no no I was thinking more about lighting a pipe or something after initial 2 shots - keeping some dignity infront of PH, trackers and nonetheless preventing a quary to laugh its head off Big Grin .
 
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Cheer up guys - it was just a stunt - I must tell you that I lubed cases prior shooting to make them stick for sure so to see how much time it would take if that happens in the field. When they are dry - they do fall out and reloading time is normaly cut in half. Tho inserting a fresh pair without a hicup is a juggle. I have partialy avoided the problem to get an appropriate grip on them by leaving an empty space between the two in my belt. But those 9,3 holes are realy tiny compared to big bores and sometimes you just can't hit them with both cases simultaneously - being under time pressure makes it quite funky thing Smiler.

P.S. About targets - nothing special, the point is that you need a fair sized printer - in my case I have an open acces to black/white printer that feeds a roll 35" wide. Then all you need is a picture of buff and you print it with "fit to paper size". Picture at close looks grainy (depends on the pixel size of it) - made out of app. 1/2" squares, but out at the distance that roughness is negligible. The picture used for target is only 265x340 pixels - 101 kB size - quite small actually.

So actually you can use any picture you like as long as you have an appropriate printer at hand.
 
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hey mouse, looks like you sorted out his heartburn and cleared his sinuses for him Smiler good stuff.
by the way that target looks familiar, that seems to be a pretty similar view the two of us had of your charging dagga boy 2 years ago, (except it was moving our way at a rapid pace! andgot alot closer than your target Wink glad to see the trusty 9.3 is doing the business. hope your practice comes in handy next month! looking forward to it.
 
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beer Remember that moon rising back in 06?

Well you know how it goes:

“I see the bad moon rising… I see trouble on the way...looks like were in for nasty weather…â€

..now I took it for granted that you are well aware of my plans described above so you may act accordingly Wink

I am looking forward as well – I just hope I wont die of extreme old age – next month is soooo far... wave
 
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Mouse,
IMO your a tad low with the nose shots for a brain shot unless your kneeling as the Buff is not fully extended, and many times they are not, a bad habit to get into is not figureing the angles. I would come up about 2 inches...Just my opine for what its worth, but your sure shooting good..


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Thanks Ray - spot on - I was standing low in the small depression (bufs hoofs were level with my shoulders) - so IMO nose shots should end up just where they were suppose to Wink .
 
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I don't know how deep a hole you are standing in but yeah you are shooting too low, for level ground anyway.

For all the big talk about reloading a double, including an extractor version, I'd guess you are repeating the typical reloading sequence of slow and bumbling! But practice can't hurt!!

Good luck.


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Thanks Will - no practice sure can't hurt and I am working on the matter - however on the lighter side I am also keeping up appearances Smiler
 
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Not to divert the discussion but what is the "short version" of the Hail Mary?!!!
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Peter nothing bad - it is a "silent" version that I keep to myself - in thoughts - without vocal pronunciation.
 
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I have shot the double and also in two charge situation and I am not a "fast loader", in fact a fast loader will invaribly fumble, drop rounds and usually screw the pooch in a tight situation, which is what happened in one of the two events mentioned..The PH had ammo all over the ground and in the second instance I held my fire until we were eyeball to eyeball while the others punched him full of good shots that didn't take effect fast enough..I had two shots at the last minute and they both did the job at point blank range..Needless to say it was an easy two shots...

My advise is just load the rifle carefully and make the next two shots count up close, if you don't have that much time you should be looking for a tree... homer

Except under the most adverse of condition you have time to load a double and those conditions are such that you better make the two shots count and the first one is 110%$ more important.

The same thing applies to a bolt action for that matter, the only thing thats going to save your bacon is the brain or spine shot in many cases and the closer he is the easier those shots are...

Just my opinnion....


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Originally posted by Atkinson:

Except under the most adverse of condition you have time to load a double and those conditions are such that you better make the two shots count and the first one is 110%$ more important.

Just my opinnion....


Fair and square patriot
 
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