Just one more example of who the WORST ANTI-HUNTERS are!!!

An earlier discussion on here concerning a similar theme, threats to the future of hunting got derailed, simply because hunters as a group are totally unable to set aside personal beliefs and unite to work against ALL of the forces that are working to end hunting.

I do not believe that will ever happen!

I hope like hell I am wrong, I really hate the thoughts of future generations not being able to hunt simply because hunters today simply refuse to cooperate with each other.

Future generations won't be able to hunt because there will be no where left to hunt or can't afford to hunt the few remaining prime areas...long before the antis shut us down completely. The ever growing human parasite will take over what's left of the wild spaces.

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Originally posted by Heym 450/400:
Future generations won't be able to hunt because there will be no where left to hunt or can't afford to hunt the few remaining prime areas...long before the antis shut us down completely. The ever growing human parasite will take over what's left of the wild spaces.

Exactly ^^^ !!!

One more for the valid list above...the USA Public School System.

Derek and Beverly Joubert
Ian Michler

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Future generations won't be able to hunt because there will be no where left to hunt or can't afford to hunt the few remaining prime areas...long before the antis shut us down completely. The ever growing human parasite will take over what's left of the wild spaces.

I disagree to a point. There will be hunting, but not as we know it or have known it.

Changing attitudes by the masses world wide that have been raised away from the Natural World and do not have any ties to the land or nature or humans part in the system have helped skew things to the point they are.

Uncontrolled population growth of humans in many areas are placing pressure on an already crowded environment.

In America there is a continuing and growing push to bring changes to the way Public Lands in the West are administered.

Wish sometimes that I had some folks optimism concerning the future of hunting, but having watched the changes that have taken place over the right at 50 years I have been an active hunter, the only realistic future I see for hunting is going to be limited to Pay To Play/High Fenced Private properties.

Just an opinion and observation on my part.

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Originally posted by Heym 450/400:
Future generations won't be able to hunt because there will be no where left to hunt or can't afford to hunt the few remaining prime areas...long before the antis shut us down completely. The ever growing human parasite will take over what's left of the wild spaces.

Exactly right. Human population growth will end hunting by necessity. These anti hunters will not have much of an accelerating effect. My guess is hunters will themselves accelerate the inevitable. I have never been persuaded by these Anti hunters. Many of the faces of hunting on TV or in person have made me consider why I would want to be associated with hunting. Antis have never made me feel even slightly ashamed.

Fortunately HSUS is now known as a criminal Organization, as the Clinton Foundation should and hopefully will be; PETA and the likes of Johnny Rodrigues spend most of their time shooting themselves in the foot ctedibility-wise, but in this day of social media there's no end to the list. I'd like to meet this guy "Internet" who's continuously "outraged" over one thing or another.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ca...-species-20-06-2012/

Conservation through responsible hunting.

Pieter Scat with Lying Aid.

Is ASPCA using the same method as HSUS?

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:


Just one more example of who the WORST ANTI-HUNTERS are!!!

An earlier discussion on here concerning a similar theme, threats to the future of hunting got derailed, simply because hunters as a group are totally unable to set aside personal beliefs and unite to work against ALL of the forces that are working to end hunting.

I do not believe that will ever happen!

I hope like hell I am wrong, I really hate the thoughts of future generations not being able to hunt simply because hunters today simply refuse to cooperate with each other.

Mr. Horse:
I really do try to be a live and let live kind of guy, but look at the NRA commercials everyone is in love with. THe one I saw this weekend were aerial floating shots of rugged western land scape. The camera finds a hunter just finished scaling the mountain and glassing over God's domain.

Then read Peter Flack's last blog post thread. There is a reason that silly acting, behind a feeder types are not in any of the NRA advertisements. The reason hunting was deemed a sport was there were rules of conduct. Rules designed that the animal could win; corn feeders for deer and turkey, high fences, ozonics, and respect for the fallen or yes even conquered. To climb the mountain, find the buck, and beat all his senses and the elements was a feat worth cherishing. Not to whoop and air guitar to a slam dunk.

I am not saying every hunt has to be a death march. These last two weekends found me hiding against a creek bank busting and getting busted by turkeys. One time I won. Turkey may just be my favorite game meat.

Great example of the evil: Ted Nugent (NRA Boardmember) and PigMan (uber propular) on the Outdoor Channel air biltizing hogs. Instead of explaining the nuisance and damage hogs do, and that this is a cull not a hunt. You know educate.

Uncle Ted looks right into the camera and declares this is not fair chase F you with Pigman doing his stupid bobble head laugh. They ran this in the promos for the show! That goes down as worst than anti-hunters in my book.

I have no use for Uncle Ted. The NRA would do well to get rid of him.

Everyone likes to pick on lawyers (I am just barley one). Lawyers self-regulated because if they did not someone else would.

Sorry, we must return to our roots, conservation, food, fair chase. If you are not on board with. You need to be drummed out of the chore.

Antis will use unfair chase, asinine behavior to convince the middle ground we are not the keepers of conservation. Like Pronography I know fair chase when I see it. If we allow everything as fair chase. Then we are letting the Antis have the bullets to kill ourseleves with.

And yes, I would vote no feeder feeding deer. In my state I lost the vote. It is what it is. I still do not hunt deer over bait.

Excellent post.

I am a friend of Peter Flack. I respect him highly. I was saddened on his decision to retire from hunting and our efforts to sort out our sport.

I agree that Ted Nugent, Pigman and a host of others do nothing for me and are hurting our sport rather than helping. I have seen few hunting shows that are really good and portray what hunting is rather than just shooting or high-fiving.

If I knew the answer, I would put it out there, but alas, I do not. I just know that shooting deer or pigs out of a box blind is not the answer nor is shooting them out of a helicopter and claiming it is "conservation" or whatever they are claiming it is.....

and Teds music sucks--

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Originally posted by Barry Groulx:
Fortunately HSUS is now known as a criminal Organization, as the Clinton Foundation should and hopefully will be; PETA and the likes of Johnny Rodrigues spend most of their time shooting themselves in the foot ctedibility-wise, but in this day of social media there's no end to the list. I'd like to meet this guy "Internet" who's continuously "outraged" over one thing or another.

Sort of like a court trial. A judge can tell the jury to ignore what an irate witness or prosecutor has just blurted out but the jurors can't just expel the remark from their brain. Give these bleeding heart types anything to unite behind, true or not, and they will use it to their advantage. Truth or common sense be damned.

Guys it is naive to think that if you somehow hunted the animals in the approved "anti" way, whatever all that might entail, that they would then have a miraculous about face on hunting.

They disagree with your sport. Many of them disagree with your being here. Many of them disagree with you and I period. They don't like you and if you gave up hunting all together it would barely budge the needle. They would shift to the next resource you are using that in their mind you shouldn't be- maybe something like air.

In a separate vein many of them don't like guns. And they most especially don't like YOU and I having guns. It is a common agenda.

Hunters are individuals to a large extent. Many of you came up hunting with your Dad, or uncles or brothers, and then on your own. You and I learned the ideas and values from them and on your own. Then it continued to be on your own in many cases. So while we agree on a lot of things, hunters basically don't want to be preached to too much about how you have to do it and how you have to do it my way. They reject it because they have established " their way."

Just one aspect that has to be, or should be considered.

Do today's hunters view hunting in the same way as older hunters do??????????????

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Originally posted by Kingsview Safaris:
Derek and Beverly Joubert
Ian Michler

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Yes, these people have quite a resume'

In case there was any doubt....

https://www.thegazette.news/ne.../27953/#.Xjed7jJTnce

https://www.thegazette.news/ne.../29210/#.XjeeUzJTnce

I do donate to our local animal shelter and my wife sits on their board of directors. The shelter is always short of money, but they have NEVER received a single penny from either HSUS or PETA. Any hunter who donates to either of those organizations in hope that his donation will make the lives of some puppies or kittens better is wasting his money.

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Originally posted by larryshores:

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Originally posted by L. David Keith:
Each and every organization that runs TV ad's with wet, shivering, muddy puppies and kittens wanting $19 a month for a tote bag and a magazine. These Imp's and their minions raise millions each year off the weak minded and those who've traded brains with imbeciles.

Give me an add where they show happy, healthy pets with loving families...no wait, that won't pull in truckloads of cash. Nevermind...I'll stick to the scam artists on my list.

The HSUS is the worst. They are a SCAM.

Ricky Gervais
THE JOUBERTS
PETA
CLINTONS
KEVIN PETERSON

Johnny Rodrigues took the room temp challenge a couple of years back now. Good riddance. There were some on this forum that advocated not giving him his just due at the time of his passing. Something about not speaking ill of the dead and all.

He is the one that brought us the entire Cecil debacle. Pass on demonizing him? Nope. I say PISS on him ... and his grave.

I realize that's crude. If anyone deserves it, he does.

I started reading this thread without knowing the age until I saw the CHC posts and he’s been dead for a bit.

Our biggest enemies can even be fellow hunters. Giving ammunition to the antis from our own hunters doing stupid things really hurts.

Joubert, Rodrigues, HSUS, PETA et all will be against us. However, when Johnny Redneck is out road hunting at night and is caught on video really hurts the reputation of us all.

Walter and Cecil were blown up so huge beyond what I think may have been the truth. I think back to Corey Knowlton buying the black rhino hunt for $350k and his family was getting death threats.

The antis aré nuts. Most of us are rational people. It’s often hard for us to understand the mind of sick people.

Eduardo Goncalves must be added to the list.

Mark Sullivan.

A selfish idiot who only cares about himself.

A Total fake.

He has done nothing for hunting but to glorify himself, getting kicked out of SCI.

DSC never accepted him!

Tells you a lot.

Saeed, why do you feel like that about Mark Sullivan? I watched some videos and looked like to me he kills animals. Is he hunting somewhere illegal, no permits, etc? Just wondering.