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One doesn’t need too look very far.

Look at some of the questions asked on these forums??

Some of these questions are so silly one wonders why are they being asked!

Imagine a bullet 10 grains heavier - or lighter - killing better??

Imagine a bullet 0.041 of an in bigger in diameter is so much better at killing!

For those of us who have been hunting all our lives, who actually KNOW there is no difference, it seems very funny.

Gun writers have always been hashing the same point for years.

A 243 Winchester in MARGINAL for deer.

But a 357 pistol is absolutely fantastic!

I am sure you can see what I mean.


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I said I was gone, but had to respond. Yes, it is more than obvious to most folks on this forum that a .243 is better than a .357 for deer and most of us are pretty familiar with reasonable buffalo cartridges. But not everyone knows what you know. So don't belittle articles conveying basic information.

While any decent .30 caliber will kill a buffalo, it's probably not a good idea and while either a 9x62 or 9x74 is clearly adequate, they are not legal in some places. The .375 has gravitated to the "best" buffalo cartridge, in my opinion, only because it's the maximum that many hunters can handle. A .416 of whatever species is vastly superior in my opinion. So is the discussion meaningless? I suspect Craig would agree with me, although that is one topic I've not discussed with him.
 
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Some articles actually defy belief!

I iAd to read every hunting and shooting publication published.

Used to have laugh at O’Connor and Keith having a go at each other.


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I don’t think anyone else has done more to inspire the traveling hunter.His writings opened up a whole new world.Getting paid for it? Everybody has an Agenda.
 
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I 100% agree. CB has written a dozen or so books, 3000-4000 articles by his count, spoken hundreds of times, produced several DVD's.
He is a wealth of experience and some knowledge, but I see no real wisdom in his writing or his body of work.

He chased the Weatherby Award, as many do, and received the recognition. Along the way, he advertised for DSC, SCI, Trijicon, Swarovski, Dakota , Chifuti Safaris, and a ton of others - all for a fee. I get that. He is a former military man and is currently a writer that gets paid by the word. Yet the work rings hollow with no conviction.

My struggle is that "can I believe what he says" when I know he has gotten paid to say nearly every word he has written or spoken?

I go back to the Rigby rifle fiasco, his daughter shooting a tracker, his helper trying to sell used shirts, hunting with a "Boddington Recommended" outfit, and on and on and on. Couple this with the mess in his personal life - I just struggle to see and understand all of the hero worship.

Is he a nice goy? Yes, to the public. No idea what his private life is like other than several divorces.

Is he genuine? I think he believes most of what he writes. He is not as controversial as Jack O'Connor or Elmer Keith or some others from yesteryear. I doubt he will say or write anything that is brutally honest about a design, a gun, a bullet or optics. He has been transparent in his writing about losing his first buffalo and other mishaps. Trying to pin him down on a subject is like wrestling a wet seal - can't get a grip.

I much prefer a writer or tV show host to call out good when he sees it and call down bad when he sees it. Being lukewarm on life or whatever is like being a spectator and never feeling the action.
Man up. State an opinion or well groomed thought. Stand for something, not just who is paying you.

Anyway, I have too much time on my hands right now, healing up from a knee mess. This just gets under my skin with I see and read "noise" with no meat.
 
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Actually, he has always said what most of us would believe to be true.

No problems with that at all.

And I think he has done a lot of positives for our sport.

Lots of what he writes is basically repeats though.


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I read some of his older books and I liked them. I liked his writing the best when he was with Petersen's Hunting. Now? Everything seems like scripted reruns.

As far as his other business ventures, I don't blame him. He has to make a living. Would I make a decision on a trip because the outfitter was a Boddington endorsed outfitter? Hell no! I could care less and I am fully aware that he gets paid a fee for the endorsement. Obviously, it must matter to some as they continue to pay him . I do wonder what kind of problems he will have if there is a really bad hunt with an endorsed outfitter.
 
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Reruns? For sure. It is to you. But the audience changes. They haven't heard it before. And I don't mind hearing it again.
 
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Yeah! When I started to think that I could go on safari in the late 80's I gobbled up all the info I could get my hands on and I read everything Boddington wrote. If there was one person that influenced my thinking about safari it was Craig Boddington.

I expect that all the info that I found so interesting 40 years ago is just as interesting to folks currently anticipating their first safari.

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While I understand exactly what dogcat is getting at, it has always been thus with outdoor writing as a whole, and it is a sign that we are getting long in the tooth. Smiler Topics keep getting repeated and there are new generations of people that haven't read what we started reading many years ago with O'Connor, John Wooters, Bob Milek, etc.

Craig has been around a long time and it is natural that he would be covering topics that he has in the past. All outdoor writers do. Sometimes with a different twist, or not. As for telling the good, the bad and the ugly...if outdoor writers and editors could test products and publish whether a certain rifle was a piece of shit or average or top notch, we would all love it. Sadly, that is not how the world works, not unless you had manufacturers that agreed to it and wouldn't pull advertising if they were unhappy with a review.....but we all know the majority would.

In this day and age, when actual hold in your hand magazines are struggling to survive against the proliferation of on-line magazines...well they are not going to do anything that will help hasten their demise. The on-line magazine world is a whole different kettle of fish, but even there...if you beat up on a product too badly you will loose advertisers hand over fist. The easiest thing to do is not write a review if something is a piece of junk. Just return it to the manufacturer with a list of the problems. It is a matter of survival, because you are still dealing with people and we all know how well most take criticism.

So let's give Craig a break boys and girls. He has done much for the hunting and shooting industry, and he is actually a nice guy and not filled with his own sense of importance, like some are...although he has more hunting experience around the globe than anyone else I can think of.


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While I understand exactly what dogcat is getting at, it has always been thus with outdoor writing as a whole, and it is a sign that we are getting long in the tooth. Smiler Topics keep getting repeated and there are new generations of people that haven't read what we started reading many years ago with O'Connor, John Wooters, Bob Milek, etc.

Craig has been around a long time and it is natural that he would be covering topics that he has in the past. All outdoor writers do. Sometimes with a different twist, or not. As for telling the good, the bad and the ugly...if outdoor writers and editors could test products and publish whether a certain rifle was a piece of shit or average or top notch, we would all love it. Sadly, that is not how the world works, not unless you had manufacturers that agreed to it and wouldn't pull advertising if they were unhappy with a review.....but we all know the majority would.

In this day and age, when actual hold in your hand magazines are struggling to survive against the proliferation of on-line magazines...well they are not going to do anything that will help hasten their demise. The on-line magazine world is a whole different kettle of fish, but even there...if you beat up on a product too badly you will loose advertisers hand over fist. The easiest thing to do is not write a review if something is a piece of junk. Just return it to the manufacturer with a list of the problems. It is a matter of survival, because you are still dealing with people and we all know how well most take criticism.

So let's give Craig a break boys and girls. He has done much for the hunting and shooting industry, and he is actually a nice guy and not filled with his own sense of importance, like some are...although he has more hunting experience around the globe than anyone else I can think of.


At least Boddington isn’t out promoting the new .375 PRC Creedmore Super.

I’ve read his last two articles, one I referenced earlier and the one Lavaca mentioned in Sports Afield. They have both been fairly neutral as to brands. Yes, he mentions multiple brands, likely his sponsors, but they aren’t tilted straight to the brands who sponsored the hunt. I viewed them as informational pieces. He was humble enough to say irons on a big bore double aren’t for him any more. He essentially shares his experiences and suggests to use what is best.

I forgot a third article I’ve recently read which he authored about mountain hunting. He noted his next mountain hunt may be his last. I don’t recall it being too promotional, other than saying great glass is essential. I don’t recall him saying the newest Leupold spotter he used is the bees knees.

There is a new audience for many of his writings. We may not be it. As to printed magazines, I love them, but I also take the daily newspaper. When I moved, I played hell trying to give away the magazines I collected (Sports Afield, Game Trails, Covey Rise) to Boy Scouts and other groups. Outdoors Tomorrow Foundation took them. Their mission is to promote the outdoors to the younger generations. I do toss the NRA mags, G&A, and the like after reading them.


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Fascinating!

Just saw some idiot comparing the 6.5 PRC to the 375 H&H!

Two totally different cartridges but the ignorant idiots don’t know that! clap


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In this day and age, when actual hold in your hand magazines are struggling to survive against the proliferation of on-line magazines...well they are not going to do anything that will help hasten their demise. The on-line magazine world is a whole different kettle of fish, but even there...if you beat up on a product too badly you will loose advertisers hand over fist.


And this is the frustrating dilemma magazines, and by extension writers, find themselves in.

If they simply state the truth, warts and all, they lose advertising money and will go away.

But if they (and they have IMO) turn their magazines into nothing but 64 pages of paid advertisements and paid advertisements pretending to be articles, that they expect readers to pay $7-10 for the privilege of being subjected to, they also go away as no customer wants to be spoon fed endless repetitive drivel about how amazingly great everything is. Do this, and you go away even more quickly.

Where is the value compared to sources such as the crowd sourced hunt reports posted here for free and other unfiltered sources? The business model was built such that advertisers paid all of the freight and magazine sales and subscriptions were almost a break even or pure gravy proposition, but readers want information not endless ad copy. By squeezing onto advertisers ever more tightly the interest of readers is slipping through their fingers ever more quickly.

I much prefer written articles I can hold in my hand, especially on a plane, waiting in an airport, etc, and definitely enjoy good hunting photography, but there needs to be substance there too.

In my opinion Craig is caught up in this trap not of his making too as is every outdoor writer, especially those trying to establish a name. Sadly they will go away, soon, and will have only themselves to blame.


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In this day and age, when actual hold in your hand magazines are struggling to survive against the proliferation of on-line magazines...well they are not going to do anything that will help hasten their demise. The on-line magazine world is a whole different kettle of fish, but even there...if you beat up on a product too badly you will loose advertisers hand over fist.


And this is the frustrating dilemma magazines, and by extension writers, find themselves in.

If they simply state the truth, warts and all, they lose advertising money and will go away.

But if they (and they have IMO) turn their magazines into nothing but 64 pages of paid advertisements and paid advertisements pretending to be articles, that they expect readers to pay $7-10 for the privilege of being subjected to, they also go away as no customer wants to be spoon fed endless repetitive drivel about how amazingly great everything is. Do this, and you go away even more quickly.

Where is the value compared to sources such as the crowd sourced hunt reports posted here for free and other unfiltered sources? The business model was built such that advertisers paid all of the freight and magazine sales and subscriptions were almost a break even or pure gravy proposition, but readers want information not endless ad copy. By squeezing onto advertisers ever more tightly the interest of readers is slipping through their fingers ever more quickly.

I much prefer written articles I can hold in my hand, especially on a plane, waiting in an airport, etc, and definitely enjoy good hunting photography, but there needs to be substance there too.

In my opinion Craig is caught up in this trap not of his making too as is every outdoor writer, especially those trying to establish a name. Sadly they will go away, soon, and will have only themselves to blame.


Bob I agree with your comments. I too prefer a magazine or a book in my hands and I like to read something that has some unbiased substance to it. Our world simply makes this almost impossible these days. If anything, I find the online sites even worse than old school paper and print media for blowing smoke up peoples butts with outfitted hunt reports and product reviews. Most of the popular online hunting/related sites are run by a couple of people at best and they are very careful to make sure what gets published on their site won't annoy manufacturers and outfitters...you don't want to stop the flow of "free shit"...and they have complete control to assure that.

This is why a site like AR is so unique. For the most part, you can say it as it is...or at least how you see it. Our host is able to provide us with a site free of paid advertising and that makes a huge difference. There are times when we do see internet bashing that goes beyond good taste, but that is a sad product of being behind a monitor and not face to face with people.


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A lot of used car salesman are real nice guys, great to hang out with. Doesn't mean I believe any of their bullshit, even if they have driven more cars than I have. Nice guys, sheisters nonetheless, but still nice guys.

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Let’s get real. You only need two rifles to hunt everything in the world: a 30-06 and 375 H&H. Articles to the contrary are just sales pitches for guns and ammo. CB is just a part of that industry.


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A lot of used car salesman are real nice guys, great to hang out with. Doesn't mean I believe any of their bullshit, even if they have driven more cars than I have. Nice guys, sheisters nonetheless, but still nice guys.

Stolen valor- takes a real fucking piece of shit for that.


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A lot of used car salesman are real nice guys, great to hang out with. Doesn't mean I believe any of their bullshit, even if they have driven more cars than I have. Nice guys, sheisters nonetheless, but still nice guys.

Stolen valor- takes a real fucking piece of shit for that.


When and where did you serve?


For me, 87-19 with about 11 months of that in the irr taking classes, and for part two, all over the world including garden spots such as Mogadishu, Haiti, and Iraq. Hopefully that satisfies the appeal-to-authority question in order for me be entitled to an opinion to say I agree with FMC. It is a classless and knowingly dishonest move, and one need not be a veteran to see that.

As for rifles, I completely agree. I have 3 30-06s and 2 375s that cover every conceivable game, climate, weather, terrain, etc. All of the many others are for fun.

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A lot of used car salesman are real nice guys, great to hang out with. Doesn't mean I believe any of their bullshit, even if they have driven more cars than I have. Nice guys, sheisters nonetheless, but still nice guys.

Good man and thank you for your service.

Stolen valor- takes a real fucking piece of shit for that.


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For me, 87-19 with about 11 months of that in the irr taking classes, and for part two, all over the world including garden spots such as Mogadishu, Haiti, and Iraq. Hopefully that satisfies the appeal-to-authority question in order for me be entitled to an opinion to say I agree with FMC. It is a classless and knowingly dishonest move, and one need not be a veteran to see that.

As for rifles, I completely agree. I have 3 30-06s and 2 375s that cover every conceivable game, climate, weather, terrain, etc. All of the many others are for fun.

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Craig is 70, four days older than me!

Wait, Craig is 70? I just turned 70. I always thought that he was the brash young kid at Peterson Publications!

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A lot of used car salesman are real nice guys, great to hang out with. Doesn't mean I believe any of their bullshit, even if they have driven more cars than I have. Nice guys, sheisters nonetheless, but still nice guys.


Stolen valor- takes a real fucking piece of shit for that.


When and where did you serve?


For me, 87-19 with about 11 months of that in the irr taking classes, and for part two, all over the world including garden spots such as Mogadishu, Haiti, and Iraq. Hopefully that satisfies the appeal-to-authority question in order for me be entitled to an opinion to say I agree with FMC. It is a classless and knowingly dishonest move, and one need not be a veteran to see that.

Good man and thank you for your service.


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