A data point to add to Taylor's tables.

A single #5 shot at 1100 fps can knock out a ringneck pheasant for up to five minutes.

I discovered that when a rooster came back to life in the back of a friends pickup.

So I took it out to the boonies, opened the tailgate, and away he flew, apparently none the worse for it.

Mybe it should be Taylor's Cold-Cocking-a-Cock Values.

Will,
I think you need a new rifle....something for that next trip across the pond....something to keep you from these moments of psychosis.....Now go look at that Heym!!!

20min on a Woodduck with #4 steel shot.

No fun when they wake up in the cab of your pickup truck as you are driving home down the highway

Canada goose, 5 minutes with U.S. # 4 in a semimagnum load. I just lit my pipe and got a cup of coffie in my hand when it started to flapp and honk. Got all the coffie over my trousers.

Regards,
Martin

Will,

Have you learned nothing from Ruarks writings?

Use enough gun man!

Remember that "anything worth shooting is worth shooting again".

I can just see it...."nice Goose, Bob....we'd better put in an insurance shot...BLAM !"

Best,

JohnTheGreek

Will,

I witnessed a similar event last season. The pheasant was shot with a load of #4 Nitro Mag 12 gauge and appeared to fall stone dead. The bird was tossed in the back of a pickup and some 5 to 10 minutes later came back to life and few away as if nothing happened. We didn't even get to cut off his tail to show ownerspip.

Perry

Bill - Screw the Knockout Values... You let the pheasant go???



What have you turned into, an animal rescue activist for Green Peace??? Damn man, eat the damn thing. By cooking the thing, you could have determined if this was blunt force trauma or an actual wound. Perform a proper autopsy. Where is your innate forensic curiosity?



A perfectly good meal gone to waste. Good thing elephants don�t fly, you'd probably run up to it yelling �Fly, you�re free, fly you�re free�. I am so disappointed in you.

We get a lot of feral pigeons here, and one of my favorite ways of clobbering them is to use a Ruger #1 we have re-chambered to 460 Weatherby!

I use 550 grain cast bullets, at around 1,200 fps, and teh range is usually less than 20 yards!

Never had one get up again

Will,
You need to go back to work, get a full time job, something to occupy your time, you need help, your a very sick man...

I had a warthog regain conciousness after 15 minutes from a hit with a 270 Grain .375 H&H Power Point. Scared the crap out of the tracker that was sitting on him in the back of the rover Somehow I don't think that this is the point that Mr. Taylor was trying to make! Actually I'd shot through one warthog and knocked out the second one so it probably doesn't count.

Rich Elliott

Rich,

Just goes to prove that our 375/404 is several times more powerful than the standard 375 H&H.

You killed one pig and put another one to sleep for a few minutes with one shot.

I killed FOUR with one bullet

Now, if I may ask those of our friends here who are into science to calculate how many time our 375/404 is more pwerful than a 375 H&H I would really appreciate it!

Saeed.

Your answer would be..

Ke(foot-pounds) = Velocity x2 then devide by 450400 X bullet weight (in grains)

So, given that.

375 HnH 240 Bear Claw @ 2676Mv = Ke(foot pounds)= 3815ft/lb

Now your 375 x 404 240 Bear Claw @ 3162Mv =Ke("")= 5327ft/lb

So you're pushing 1512Ke more at the muzzle.

Regards.

Dave.
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Saeed,

When I think of the 4 warthogs in one shot I visualize a sow laying on her side and four warthogs in a row trying to finish dinner

Rich

Will,

you are a real layman with respect to terminal ballistics.
Take for reference not KO values, but the PI.

This is the result of one shot with my .458 Lott:

Another research opportunity squandered. That pheasant could have answered the age old question, does the light stay on when you close the door?

Will

I have another story about a pheasant that miraculously came back to life.

My brother-in-law shot and thought that he had killed this cock pheasant. It was such a nice speciman of a bird that he was going to take it to the taxidermist. He brought it home, and placed it in the freezer whole. 3 days later he opened the freezer and the pheasant is alive but frosted up around the face. He took out the pheasant and feels so sorry for it that he nurses it back to health. Later the next week, he released it into the wild.

There has to be more to this story . . .

"And then the once shot-riddled and previously frozen, but now only slightly concussed and mildly frost-bitten, pheasant granted my brother-in-law three wishes, which were:

1. A bigger, better choked shotgun.
2. A box of high brass shells loaded with No. 6 shot.
3. A working freezer."