The Accurate Reloading Forums
Cape Buffalo just stand there!!
14 March 2007, 20:34
JarrodCape Buffalo just stand there!!
Me and a friend of mine were sitting around discussing hunting the other day. Talking about what we would like to hunt someday. I said I wanted to hunt Cape Buffalo. He was like why would you want to hunt them for, he said they just stand there like a truck. I told him he was crazy and that he must be thinking about American Buffalo. I told him to catch one in a bad mood or wound it and let it see you, and see how much standing there like a truck it does.
So I was wondering if anyone could recommend an inexpensive video that shows a couple of adrenaline, up close and personal, fall at your feet, get your heart racing charges.
"Science only goes so far then God takes over."
14 March 2007, 20:40
Fallow BuckI think I can feel another Mark Sulivan thread coming on!!
Will probably have the footage you are looking for though...
FB
14 March 2007, 21:34
MacD37Ignorance is rampant in some hunters, where all African hunting is concerened, but the most numb skulled ideas seem to be around Cape Buffalo, and Elephant.
Ihad some pictures at work, right after a safari, yrs ago, and one guy said,
"why in hell did you fly half way around the world to shoot a cow? Hell, you can shoot all you want on your grand fathers ranch here in Texas!"
That was a guy who had hunted all his fifty yrs of life, but had never been anyplace other than Texas, and Colorado for deer!That, however, was no excuse, You would think anyone even interested in hunting at all, would have some insight into the shooting of animals that are as big as Cape Buffalo, and certainly ELEPHANT! .......IGNORANCE!
....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1
DRSS Charter member
"If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982
Hands of Old Elmer Keith
14 March 2007, 21:46
Use Enough GunYes, we've all heard it when it comes to hunting African animals--just how easy they are! The other one that I get is how easy it is to hunt Zebra. Just like shooting a horse in a pasture. . . . Right!
14 March 2007, 21:48
Die Ou JagterWho ever said all hunters were smart!
14 March 2007, 23:50
butchlocamazing how often you hear an opinion from someone with no experience, or perhaps one expounding his knowledge. Funny thing is i always found that the guy who really knew his stuff didn't need to expound on it.
14 March 2007, 23:58
cable68Sometimes these misconceptions occur among those who have been to Africa.
I told a friend who has been on 2 previous safaris that he needed to hunt eland. Told him of the excitement of the day long stalk, and how I even lost 2 toenails in the process.
He said it would be too much like shooting a cow.
Last year he hunted eland, and now he has a different opinion of eland.
Caleb
15 March 2007, 00:17
GAHUNTERI have a cousin who has his own Christian mission in Kenya. He takes a group from here a couple of times a year to build a road, school, clinic, bridge or whatever needs fixin' in the mission area. At the end of every trip, he takes the volunteers to a govenment game park for a couple of days of R&R.
When I first went on safari, he said to me, "why would you want to shoot those animals. They just stand there and let you walk right up to them. Where's the sport in that."
Frankly, I think this is the opinion of many folks who have only seen African wildlife in game parks and on the Discovery and National Geographic channels (which are invariably filmed in game parks). They have no conception of "wild" animals at all.
It's a sad commentary on the state of the world that today, even many experienced conservationists think that the animals in African game parks are living truely in a wild state, instead of realizing that these parks are nothing but oversized zoos, maintained for the profit of the government.
15 March 2007, 00:20
fredj338It's hard enough top to just explain most of our travel experiences to people that have never even left their own state!
Now trying to explain to a guy that sits in a blind & shoots deer over bait that cape buffalo hunting is a challenge.
Why bother?
LIFE IS NOT A SPECTATOR'S SPORT!
15 March 2007, 00:21
N'gagiquote:
I told him he was crazy. He must have been thinking about American buffalo. I told him catch one in a bad mood or wound it and let it see you and see how much standing there like a truck it does.
I don't know where you got the idea that American bison just stand around either. They are very skittish in the wild or on large ranches where there are rolling hills or just great plains of grass. Taking one the old fashioned way with a lever action and crawling on your belly for hours is a lot of work, and a wounded one will dance on your skull too!
I was on a ranch in Wyoming and the guy had about 20 in a pen, and they charged the railing if you got too close.
Mark Jackson
15 March 2007, 00:52
L. David KeithI respect all wildlife; big and small. I've seen friends bitten by wounded Squirrels (yes, I laughed my arse off), kicked or bitten by Deer, Horses, Cows. Even a few raked by Steenbok and gored by Bushbuck. It only takes one mistake and it could be your last. Here's the new rule for anyone that wants to join any form of "Greenie" organization: they must complete a minimum 14 day DG hunt for the Big 5. They walk up front and protect everyone with their 9000 power zoom lens.
Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris
http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333
Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com
NRA Benefactor
DSC Professional Member
SCI Member
RMEF Life Member
NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor
NAHC Life Member
Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer
Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added
http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#926103994110 days in the Stormberg Mountains
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson
Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running......
"If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you."
15 March 2007, 01:42
Kyler HamannYeah but Mark did you make the shot? Were there 19 in the pen when you left?
Kyler
15 March 2007, 02:01
Use Enough GunMark/Kyler: I shot an American bison with my .54 Caliber Hawken black powder rifle, using a Maxi-ball, a few years ago. It was not a shoot but a hunt. It was in an area on the Utah/Wyoming border that was low fenced and was 27 miles long and 15 miles wide. The 75 bison were with a winter herd of over 1500 elk. Very interesting, and definitely not like shooting a cow in a pen. Especially when the bull bison wanted to stay with the downed bull and started to gore him.
15 March 2007, 08:11
N'gagiBoddington once said that it was one of the most "under appreciated" hunts in North America. At least I think he did???
The only buff in my freezer came off the internet.
Just like this post, so it may be up to 50% Bull Shit
Mark Jackson
15 March 2007, 08:19
Jarrodquote:
Originally posted by N'gagi:
quote:
I told him he was crazy. He must have been thinking about American buffalo. I told him catch one in a bad mood or wound it and let it see you and see how much standing there like a truck it does.
I don't know where you got the idea that American bison just stand around either. They are very skittish in the wild or on large ranches where there are rolling hills or just great plains of grass. Taking one the old fashioned way with a lever action and crawling on your belly for hours is a lot of work, and a wounded one will dance on your skull too!
I was on a ranch in Wyoming and the guy had about 20 in a pen, and they charged the railing if you got too close.
Forgive me for that I had a brain fart there I guess. The rest of the post though I think most everyone got my point.
Now about the Cape Buffalo. Well I've never been to Africa but I plan to. But I do know better than to think of Cape Buffalo as just standing there.
"Science only goes so far then God takes over."
15 March 2007, 09:03
SaeedWalter think I like to hunt buffalo because they are easier to hit.
He prefers warthogs, as they are smaller, and more challenging.
15 March 2007, 10:48
JarrodSo can anyone recommend an inexpensive Cape Buffalo with one or more up close and personal kill or be killed charges??
This way I can show my friend that Cape Buffalo don't just stand there.
"Science only goes so far then God takes over."
15 March 2007, 18:14
<Hunter Formerly Known As Texas Hunter>I must confess, when Mike first expressed an interest in hunting Cape Buffalo, my response was "Why? Hell, that's like shooting a cow. " As time wore on, I did more reading (I had agreed to go along and thought I should do some prepatory research) and reshaped my view of M'bogo.
Now that I have had the good fortune to experience hunting Cape Buffalo, I understand.
On a similar note, before my first kid was born, I didn't particularly like kids. Now I love being around them and being a parent is the most fulfilling part of my life. For some things, one must walk in another's shoes to really understand and appreciate.
