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I have had many opportunities to fish for African fishes. After or during hunting. Bream, tigerfish and a bunch of other wet, slippery stuff I can't remember because I don't give a damn what they are called. I have always passed. American fish have made a big enough fool out of me over the years. I don't need African fish to provide any confirmation. No matter where I go, I have found that, when the fish hear I'm coming, they throw a party. Free food! I have reeled in more empty hooks than I care to remember. I have been the only one on a boat carrying fifty fishermen out of Point Judith who did not catch a thing. Now, please understand, I was doing the same thing everyone else was doing, but apparently, I was somehow managing to do it worse than any other person on the boat. I have concluded that I have to see my quarry, aim at it individually and then, and only then, shoot and kill it. I can't seem to just flail a line out over an empty expanse of water with any expectation of success. For me, that's the same as throwing away all hope, again and again, at the end of a nylon line. For me, that has been what they call fishing. If I am hunting anything, above or below water, I want a gun. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | ||
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I have greatly enjoyed fishing in Lake Kariba at Chete, fishing for and catching barbels, bream and tiger fish made for a very nice afternoon break from tracking Buffalo. The bream are delicious fried, the staff seem to appreciate the barbel, and I managed to catch a 14+ pound tiger fish. My wife is, apparently, like you, she has fished alongside and done almost exactly the same thing as me, but caught very little. It took her 4 years to catch her first tiger fish! Karl Evans | |||
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I enjoy fishing. A good days fishing can be very satisfying. Never fished in Africa and not really wishing to do so as there is ample fishing opportunity in home waters. Given the choice, fishing or hunting, hunting takes it every time. For me, no comparison. Michael Robinson's story brings up something I've seen while fishing but cannot explain. Two guys, side by side, fishing saltwater from a boat. One guy catches 90% of the fish while the other guy just can hardly get get fish to look at his bait. Why is that...? Hunting.... it's not everything, it's the only thing. | |||
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This is why I prefer spearfishing. It's just like hunting, where you spot and stalk your prey. And like hunting, where you learn to read the wind and plan your approach, with spearfishing you learn to hold your breath and conserve your oxygen. I find it much more enjoyable than rod and reel fishing. | |||
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I love fishing as much as hunting. One afternoon 2 weeks ago while hunting in the East Cape, we took the afternoon off to fish for Florida strain largemouth in a small farm dam. Caught a lot of fish and really enjoyed it. At home, I walk down to the pond in my back yard every evening and catch a few largemouth. Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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I've always wanted to fish for tigers. Thought about a hunt in Kilombero for that reason, despite the downsides. Never did it. I've also considered a total non-hunting tourist/fishing trip to Zanzibar and fishing out of Dar or Mafia. Still on my bucket list. | |||
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To finish up a Zambezi hunt with some fishing on Lake Kariba. Blissful | |||
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Jerry - Completely agree. I get the same rush I get when making that last approach on a Buffalo as I do on these giant Amazon catfishes I target. Adrenaline is Adrenaline, period. Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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Fishermen are cheats. No way in tarnation can one compare them to hunters. Hunters go deep into the bush. They always shoot twice. And they eat what they shoot at. Fishermen are nothing but cheating low lives! They put food on a hook, and throw it into the sea. Waiting for a poor fish to try to eat it, and ensnare them. Terrible way to kill a poor creature! We all now what they mean when they say "you up to some fishy business?" No character at all, fishermen!  | |||
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I'm very much in the same boat, Michael. I'd give you a run for your money as world's worst fisherman. My skill in failing at fishing is only rivaled by my "abilities" deer hunting. | |||
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I feel your pain, Mike. I will be going back to Tanzania (Kilombero) in early November and while I am there, plan to do some tiger fishing. I told Gerard Miller that if I can just land one, I will consider that a huge success. | |||
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Leopard hunting is much like fishing. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Not really. You still need to shoot straight or suffer. Fishing doesn’t have that danger. Fishermen remind me of vegetarians. As the old saying goes, vegetarians are bad hunters. So are fishermen!  | |||
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Fishing is just another word for wasted time. | |||
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Because you suck at it. (jk)  Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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Fishing is a thinly veiled reason for drinking beer on boat. I don’t need a reason to do that. USMC Retired DSC Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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I like fishing. Fishing is like Yoga in it relaxes me, but I still get to kill, cook, and eat something. | |||
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If I liked eating fish, I might enjoy it more. As a kid I was a thouroughgoing fisherman. I'd be the one who cleaned the catch, and often cooked it... But I never enjoyed eating them. Maybe it's because it's freshwater. Maybe I'm just odd. But I'd rather eat a mud hen than a walleye or trout. | |||
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I think you guys have a rather jaded and might I saw, negative view of something not that foriegn or different than Safari hunting. I'd agree if we're talking about sitting in the hot sun drowning worms while drinking beer. My fishing adventures are every bit as exciting and memorable as any hunting Safari I've done. It's the same.... This trip I was on last month, required a stupid amount of travel. 4-1/2 days in and 4 days out. The reason was, the charter that could have delivered Ralph and I right in front of camp, was 12,000. With just two, its not realistic. We moved up river from fishing with "Quilombolas" people, which are free'd black slaves. Up and over a waterfall we had to portage'. to fishing with Tunayana indians. This was a true and authentic Amazon "expedition" if you will. This trip possessed every element a Safari does. Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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Real adventure and difficulty in getting to places this remote. Interesting cultures, and "wide open" fishing. Calling this boring, you're missing out on something in life that simply cannot be believed our world still has to offer. It must be searched for and vetted well. This trip was difficult, relatively disorganized and a bit of a goat rope but I'll not forget it. The Indians sent their "Shaman" to bless our trip one night. This Youtube is VERY dark but, well, you'll see. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VWuYc72RFWc Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg: I think you guys have a rather jaded and might I saw, negative view of something not that foriegn or different than Safari hunting. I'd agree if we're talking about sitting in the hot sun drowning worms while drinking beer. My fishing adventures are every bit as exciting and memorable as any hunting Safari I've done. It's the same.... This trip I was on last month, required a stupid amount of travel. 4-1/2 days in and 4 days out. The reason was, the charter that could have delivered Ralph and I right in front of camp, was 12,000. With just two, its not realistic. We moved up river from fishing with "Quilombolas" people, which are free'd black slaves. Up and over a waterfall we had to portage'. to fishing with Tunayana indians. This was a true and authentic Amazon "expedition" if you will. This trip possessed every element a Safari does.[/QUOTE You’re wrong Steve. Your trip included a lot of stuff never found on a safari. Safaris these days are simply a truck ride looking for stuff to shoot. All the comforts of home are provided both at camp and on the truck. Since Cam Greg died, there are essentially no safari expeditions left in Africa. I’ve caught tigers in Lakes Kariba and Cahorra Basso, as well as the Kilombero, Zambezi, Chobe, and Kwando rivers while on safari and it added immeasurably to each trip.  Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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Hunting will always be my favorite. However, drilling holes through a few feet of ice and fishing all day is wonderful. Next to hunting, ice fishing is about as good as it gets. Floating the snake river with a boat and fishing it in the summer is fun as well. You anti fisherman do not know what you are missing! | |||
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Exactly right Jerry. Riding around in a truck, until somebody else says stop. Somebody else follows a track, somebody else tells you which one to shoot. Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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I could travel to the ends of the earth (as you seem to have done, Steve), and the results would be the same. No fish. None. I am sure that they laugh at me. I feel their scorn every minute I am on the water. I can see them saying, in fish talk, "This idiot can't even see us. Let's take his 'bait' again and send his hook back empty." I'd go spearfishing. I am a certified SCUBA diver and have dived in two oceans. Maybe someday I will dive down into their world and shoot a fish. Like it should be done.  Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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This is a true story! I checked it myself. Two friends, a hunter and a fisherman. The fisherman went to visit his friend the hunter. As he walked in, he saw his friend had his finger in a gold fish ball. He was dancing, and so was the fish dancing exactly like him. The fisherman asked what was going on. The hunter said he is proving that the greater mind controls the lesser mind. And as he is more intelligent than the fish, the fish does as he does. The fisherman asked if he could try that trick, while his friend the hunter went to get them both a drink. A few minutes later, the hunter comes back with two cold beers. The sight that greeted him was shocking. There was his friend the fisherman. With his fingers in the gold fish ball. And his mouth was opening and closing just like the gold fish was doing. | |||
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That's what I call fishing! ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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I like to fish. I really like to fish from my boat while drinking beer. I like hunting better. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Basically you like drink beer sitting in your boat. Fishing is just an afterthought! | |||
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I have 2 sons. Older one is a hunter, the younger a fisherman. The younger one says he doesn't have the patience for hunting. Yet, I've seen that boy fish for hours and hours on end, with little success and when it's time to leave he is royaly pissed off. Not because he didn't catch much, because he has to leave. I have also seen him catch bluegill after bluegill and truly having a blast doing it, to the point one would think he is catching record book blue marlin. I guess like with anything, if it's in your blood, it doesn't matter your success rate, as long as you're doing it. | |||
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I never measure success on a trip by what I catch or kill. If you have to kill or catch something for a trip to be a enjoyable, you probably should find another hobby.  Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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Amen to that Jerry. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Jerry - Profound, accurate and as if it came from my own mouth. It's obvious we all want to catch fish, kill a Buffalo or whatever. But if the metric of a successful journey is singularly based on the weight of the meat pole, you're doing it for the wrong reasons. Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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I'll put it this way, then. I don't go fishing. I go boating. And I am very successful at it. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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My wife took this photo of a proud fisherman in the Caprivi one year. It’s my favorite fishing picture. That is a meat pole! We heartily congratulated him. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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I’ve been in Argentina for a month now and we are without clients for a bit, so I will try the Golden Dorado fishing tomorrow on the Paraná River. Although I don’t shoot much while here, I still enjoy being in the field. I’m usually helping new shooters and will blast through a few boxes every now and then, which is great fun. I’ll report back after, but I’m like others who have posted in that I do the same thing and have less than stellar results. We fished a few hours on a lake not far away a few weeks ago. My tally: one little fish; three anchor lines thinking I had caught a monster each time. I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills. Marcus Cady DRSS | |||
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It was about a 7 hour drive each way. I caught some strange, small catfish and a freshwater ray (just hooked the back of it). This was 20-22 hours in the boat between two days. I was bored out of my mind. The beer helped. No, I’m not much of a fisherman. I hate sitting in blinds, but I’d much rather do that. This was a guided trip (not affiliated with our operation), but just a random excursion. The other 10 guys here were on a bachelor trip or something like that, but didn’t fare much better. I’d much rather be hunting, even without a “kill.” I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills. Marcus Cady DRSS | |||
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Chaps. Sit behind a croc bait in the Luangwa river and the Vundu will smash your bait every time. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Hahaha! I once had a lion climb a tree and eat an entire impala we were using for leopard bait! The lion only left the hooves behind. Story of my life. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Hunting without a gun is like having a steak dinner without the steak! | |||
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