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Ray Atkinson the source of all rumor and innuedo of all things safari and africa  apparently took his training from W. Mark Felt (now 91 of Twin Falls, ID) who has just been identified as the infamous "Deep Throat" of the Watergate Scandal.Now we know where Ray learned his backroom techniques and manipulative tactics to beat all those other booking agents at their own game.Ray you dirty scoundrel Yes I am bored this evening... Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | ||
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Mike, good one... Mike | |||
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It's always the ones you never suspect! | |||
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You mean Ray trained Felt, as Ray already had 25 years in the law enforcement, right after Congress started the Secret Service. This was before Ray spent 1909-1912 in the Lado Enclave poaching Ivory. Who do you think outfitted Teddy Roosevelt's safari? Minkman | |||
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Ray actually traded rifles with T.R. That's why the Pres. had a .405 instead of an inadequete .45/70.  | |||
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It gives me the creeps to hear Ray mentioned in the same sentence with "Deep Throat" and "Back Room Techniques"! "There are worse memorials to a life well-lived than a pair of elephant tusks." Robert Ruark | |||
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Had not we already discussed and agreed that Ray's career started with TR when he was police commissioner in NYC and was so effective TR then included him in his Spanish American war gang? | |||
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To have the nerve to compare a Federal Narcotics Agent with one of those lawyer types in the FBI, that being the Federal Bureau of Incompetance is meaner than a junk yard dawg, and I did not trade Teddy a .405 for a 45-70, I wouldn't own a 45-70 punkin roller, but I may have lent that scoundrel my old .405 and he never returned it...as I recall Bwana Cottar ended up with it in a poker game at the Four Sixes ranch in Texas, and went and got himself killed, much to the dismay of Ted and I... Now that's the real story!!   "Want da ya mean, WE, white man" Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Wish this site had been around years ago, would have saved me 4 years getting that History degree. It's all here at my finger tips. Semper Fi WE BAND OF BUBBAS STC Hunting Club | |||
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"45-70 punkin roller"... ...OK Ray, I need a copy of that The-sar-us you've been using... ...Got dam you come up with some good ones..."Whiny Baby Stinkum butt"....that one was a while back! JW | |||
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My favorite Atkinsonism is "Someone oughta Flatten His Snotbox" Elmo | |||
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Who could forget "Kiss old spot"? I think that is why I chose the avatar I did, that is my version of "old spot"!!! Sacred cows make the best burgers. Good Shooting! | |||
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Soooo, are you trying to say I'm not political correct? Frankly I resmeble that remark! I think some of you have been gilflurted and stringhaulter!! to speak of me in such a manner.  Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Man! I ain't old enough to get into this one!  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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Now if ol' Ray had really seen ol' Teddy when he came through Idaho and Montana that time on the train..... Tellin' us all about it (his .405, just out in ought 4!) from the Pullman platform on the last car....... Well he would also know how the grand .45-70 got its nickname..... Ought 7 I believe it was........ We had the .30-06 and brand new she was!!!! And fast!!! Faster than anything we had ever seen I tell you! It was then that T.R's press secretary I believe it was, "coined" the grand .45-70 a PUMPKIN SLINGER" when comparing it to the new '06! Never has the .45-70 rolled it projectile and "slinging" is even debatable....... And please don't judge Idaho by those that have been thrown out; as in "Felt"! BigRx | |||
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Ray planted that 600 yrs old giant live oak in Texas where T. Roosevelt and riders rested one hot day before going into Mexico in hot pursuit. Texicon Folk Lore! Dak | |||
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If Felt is 91, then EXACTLY how old IS Ray?! Let us speak courteously, deal fairly, and keep ourselves armed and ready Theodore Roosevelt | |||
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Did Ray invent fire? Or was that Al Gore? Somehow a .45/70 and a buffalo hunt is involved, but I can't quite remember what The New York Times had to say about it. I know that Ray is pretty involed in the Eastern Establishment... Didn't he book John Kerry's duck hunt? | |||
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Now Ernest that is low down and fowl smelling!! at least to my blue state thinking! Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Oh lordy lordy, he's flirting with girls in string halters again!!!!  And we all know your politically CORRECT, were just trying to figure out what POLITICAL you might be!! JK, JK. Sacred cows make the best burgers. Good Shooting! | |||
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Ray, Makes ya wonder where some of these folks were raised!! Doesn't everyone use terms like this? My first exwife was gillflurted, leads to a lot of funny looks in public. I wonder if anyone knows which leg is used for a "scotch hobble" mike "Too lazy to work and too nervous to steal" | |||
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Hokey Smokes Ray, take it easy! You've been going like the Old Harry since someone mentioned the FBI. You can stop using the corn husks and peach pits, they sell a thing called toilet paper now. Minkman | |||
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If any of you have read "Undaunted Courage" by Stephen Ambrose, you may remember the passage in which Lewis&Clark mention Ray. I read it several years ago and of course at that time had no idea what Ambrose was talking about. Thank you for enlightening me. _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | |||
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