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With All The Accidents Happening On Safari, May You Need One Of These?

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05 February 2014, 07:24
Saeed
With All The Accidents Happening On Safari, May You Need One Of These?
May be we should all carry one of these on safari


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05 February 2014, 07:39
crbutler
This strikes me as a much better idea than quickclot or the other clot activators alone.

However, I would wait until there are some more studies done before getting that stuff.
05 February 2014, 09:59
faisal
Carry a similar product made by Celox in my med kit, thankfully never needed to use it.

http://www.celoxmedical.com/in...s/celox-applicatior/
05 February 2014, 10:50
georgeld
"works in 15 minutes" it says.
Hell, anyone bleeding enough to need something like this would bleed out in 15min. Sounds like just another one of those products: "made to sell, not use" as Dad used to say.

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05 February 2014, 10:58
Scriptus
A bit more advanced than tampons, but the same idea. Getting something like a head ache tablet out my first aid box has always got a conversation going. Big Grin
I do not know, but if I am correct, judging by the size of the one in Saeed's posting, it must be for 50 cal or exit wounds. Eeker
05 February 2014, 11:25
Neil-PH
We could all do with carrying something like this in a first aid kit, and need to accept the maker's guarantee on its use, so when/if we ever have an incident we are prepared.

I had an incident 21 years ago.....would have loved something like this back then, although we made do with what we had in those days.
05 February 2014, 11:43
shakari
I was always taught to keep a tampon or two in both my immediate and secondary first aid kits for this very reason and would think a single tampon would be much easier to remove from the wound during treatment than umpteen separate mini sponges.

I followed that advice for more than 30 years and am glad to say, I never needed to test it.






05 February 2014, 16:27
Scriptus
I have only had to use one once [tampon that is,] and that was on wound caused by a smart arse playing with one of my knives. As the things swell when wet, they make a nifty pressure dressing and long before the Israeli pressure dressing came around. The idiot was in his late teens and was not happy having the tampon jammed into his flesh. Matters were not improved after I told him to check his breasts the next morning. This came out in the surgery while the wound was being sutured. The doctor had to leave the patient a couple of times to regain his composure as he and the patient's father were laughing so much. Big Grin
05 February 2014, 17:04
ledvm
I actually would like to have one.


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05 February 2014, 19:19
Carl Frederik Nagell
Mmmmh I am a surgeon and I'm a bit sceptical

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05 February 2014, 20:27
Eland Slayer
quote:
Originally posted by georgeld:
"works in 15 minutes" it says.
Hell, anyone bleeding enough to need something like this would bleed out in 15min. Sounds like just another one of those products: "made to sell, not use" as Dad used to say.

George


It says it works in 15 seconds.....not 15 minutes.


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05 February 2014, 22:03
Bud Meadows
quote:
Originally posted by georgeld:
"works in 15 minutes" it says.
Hell, anyone bleeding enough to need something like this would bleed out in 15min. Sounds like just another one of those products: "made to sell, not use" as Dad used to say.

George


Read it again- it says 15 SECONDS not minutes


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05 February 2014, 22:27
shakari
It says 15 seconds in the headline & (unless they've changed it recently) 15 minutes in the article so one or other it a typo...... I'd guess they mean seconds.






06 February 2014, 02:56
eagle27
A damn good idea but could be developed further; imagine if the sponges could be incorporated into cartridges. Those of you who are double users could have one in the second barrel, you accidentally shoot one in your party, just follow up with the second barrel and presto an instant fix to the wound dancing

(not biased, I just don't think they would feed too well in a bolt gun)
06 February 2014, 03:51
Geronomo
I am a surgeon, have treated many gunshot wounds over the past 25 years, and I cannot really envision an instance where this would be really useful or game changing.

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06 February 2014, 04:46
emron
Im also a surgeon, and I really cannot see a use for this except in rare situations where the wounds are entirely musculoskeletal, without organ involvement and circulation compromise.