Anyone know of a 2 hog 5 day hunt in Ethiopia, CAR, Cameroon or anywhere else?

I have asked a couple booking agents about this, but they all gave me the wouldn't be worth his or the PH's time salute.

Come on 2 pigs, 5-7 days for 10K. It's all I am freaking asking for!

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Come on 2 pigs, 5-7 days for 10K. It's all I am freaking asking for!

How about "Three Little Pigs" by Golden Books for $2.99 ?



Sorry, I just could not resist!! Must be something in the eggnog!!

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Sorry, I just could not resist!! Must be something in the eggnog!!

Funny I agree but that version is not the one he is after, no forest in that picture

D99

From what little I know about giant forest hogs I don't think they are common enough in any of their range to warrant a safari just to hunt them and particularly on a short duration hunt. I think they most often come as a target of opportunity while hunting other game.

I too would dearly love to hunt them if I had the opportunity.

Mark

I have heard of them, but just how big is a "giant forest hog"? Are they really giants?

Oh Doggy, they're huge! A big boar normally goes over 600 lb. But, sadly enough, as Mark said they are strictly targets of opportunity from what I've been able to read on them. Boddington got one on a failed bongo hunt and was just as tickled to have it as he would have been with a bongo. Big, black, ugly as sin and hard to come by. A veritable hawg huntah's dream! And I do dream of them.

Oldsarge,
Thanks, I had no idea. I had heard of them but have never seen a picture that had anything in it that I could gauge relative size.

On my next bongo hunt ( I will keep an eye out for one.

Damn, That thing is HUGE! Never seen a picture before.

I saw one in an animal park that I was helping build new pens in. UGLY! That would be fun to hunt!

What are the terrain and veg conditions you hunt them in?

333

My understanding is that they inhabit rain forest, the same kind of habitat you get bongo in.

Also in Ethiopia on the mountain and I beleive on Mount Kenya as well but not posative about that.

What do the record books say about size of this beast?

Quoting Mark :

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From what little I know about giant forest hogs I don't think they are common enough in any of their range to warrant a safari just to hunt them and particularly on a short duration hunt. I think they most often come as a target of opportunity while hunting other game.

I'll be in the CAR in 2 weeks to look after mainly Bongo and if possible Giant Forrest Hog and sitatunga.
Mark is right, it's a target of opportunity while hunting bongo or sitatunga in extremely deep forest.
Last year I saw prints, only. Both the PHs never saw Giant FH in 2 years.
Speaking of deep forrest, it means you have to use a taxi plane. Cameroon and CAR are air-linked only once a week (Cameroon-France tuesday, CAR-FRance saturday)so at least one week in the country for a 5 days hunt. Add the not cheap taxi plane and the price is a concern. The chance of shooting a Giant Hog is in the best places (Seladang, Rudy Lubin) 1 chance in 4 weeks of non-stop exhausting tracking. In savannah one makes 4 miles/h, in deep jungle 1/3 mile/h. In savannah buff and ele can be shoo off, in jungle when bumping in their lap, they are prone to trample you in self defense.
If you happen to distinguish a Giant F hog and shoot it, don't forget the CAR and the Cameroon abide to the Alger convention : no shooting of females and not full-grown males. If your quarry is not an adult male, troubles in perspective.Huge fees or bribes, jail for a lioness.

IMO Giant Forrest Hog is sort of a bonus when hunting other jungle animals. Just sheer luck can produce this trophy.

Jean, I hope you get a big boar.

D99,
Thanks, but chances are scarce. I'll do my best.
When arriving in Bangui, we cannot miss all the PHs in the CAR. I'll do my best to know which zone is the best for the Giant FH and I'll tell You.
To please You, I'll use my German made Sauer202.

Jean,

Your going to make me want to stop telling French jokes and swtich back to Italian and Spanish jokes.

Good luck with your Sauer.

If you really want a talored hunt for Giant Forest Hog and nothing else, Charlie Goldenberg of Premier Safaris can probably set it up. He uses a guy named Borge Ladegford in Cameroon. I hunted with Borge's outfit on the savanah in northern Cameroon in 2004 for Roan (see story on hunt pages)and he also hunts bongo and the forst species in the heavy rain forest in southern Cameroon. They take a good number of giant forest hogs.

Now the problem for a hunt like this is the logstics. Since you have to hunt the forest hogs from the bongo camp, you would be taking space normally used by a bongo hunter. That means you would be expected to pay the same price as the bongo hunter for the hunt. That comes to something like $25K. It could be done, but it would cost. On the pus side, you could do the hunt and take a bongo and a forest elephant for trophy fees since they are also on license in the area.

A general bag license in Cameroon covers animlas fom a different list, A, B, and C. The bongo and elephant and some other animals are on the A list and you can take 2 animals off that list. The giant forest hog is on the B list and you and take 3 animals off that list. B list also includes forest sitatunga and red river hog nd someother animals. You can take 4 animals off the C list and that is mostly comprisd of the forest duikers and common game like warthog.

Again, Charlie could probaby set it up. He seems to be able to set up hunts nobody else can manage.

MAc

MAC's SAFARI

Mac,

Cameroon is a wonderful place.I insist, hunting blocks, not the villagers common hunting grounds and "chasse libre" grounds.
To collect Giant FH one needs :
1) first a place where they are present
2) second a place where they aren't poached, that means no "chasse libre" but a thoroughly surveyed outfit
3) third an outstanding PH capable of leading You to the very place where the Giant FH can be surprised.
All this requirements are narrowing the number of outfitters and PHs able to make You collect it.
Then, it's up the hunter and his walking capability.

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Jean,

Your going to make me want to stop telling French jokes and swtich back to Italian and Spanish jokes.

Good luck with your Sauer.

Keep on telling French jokes, not sure the French deserve them, but our government no doubt

Oh just slightly change them to Parisian jokes. That way the rest of France will join in!

Good luck down there. I think Central Africa is the most interesting hunting in Africa.

Bongo, LD Eland, forest Ele, western roan, forrest buff, black leopards, wonderful stuff.

The very best - and incomparable - online source on the Tumbo (Ogiek name), giant forest hog or Hylochoerus meinertzhageni meinertzhageni is the diploma thesis by Sandra Fimpel. I recommend it to everybody interested in these fine animals:

http://www.wildtierbiologie.de/Waldschwein.htm

Carcano

New Guy (Heym USA)
That's Claas Kleyboldt and Simon Evans but I'm not sure where that GFH is from. I don't think Claas took one with us. Do you know where that picture was taken?

Rich Elliott

Here's a good picture of one we took in April. That's me on the right. We've taken 3 good ones this past quota season. All in April/May. We usually feel lucky to just take one. They are hunted in conjunction with our Mt. Nyala Safaris. There are only 5 licenses total per year and those are split between 2 concessions.




And, just to show the size, is a side shot of the same hog.

Rich Elliott

Carcano 91,
My German is practically non existant but I sure understood the pictures. Amazing study of GFH. The girl ain't too bad either (click the green arrow at the bottom)

Rich Elliott

I have seen them out in the middle of the day in Queen Elizabeth Park in Uganda. There are many lions in the park and that is why I assume they are out at mid-day there.In most places they are supposed to be nocturnal but not sure that is true.

The ones in the Camerouns do not seem to get too big but the ones at the eaast end of their range in Ethiopia and Kenya are quite large.

I'd love to hunt for one and thus complete the "Super-Slam Of Ham" quest, but I'll probably never get the chance. Rich, good catch on the "green arrow" option. I gleaned the attached photo from the website. So, what's the gu "really" looking at? jorge

Rich,

That is a heck of a hog. Am I assuming correctly that it scores pretty well from the tusk size? Also what is your guess on the weight? 300 pounds?

Mark

Try twice to three times that! They get really big.

450 kg????????

Where, how much, what rifle is fien for a tank like that. I swa an ad in the swedish Huntin journal that next issue there is a article about a boar in Tunis, that weighed 355 kg!

did that little pig weigh.

The biggest wild pigs I have seen, at least in photos, in Jagen Weltweit Magazine, are Europeasn wild boars from Romania and Siberia and some have been weighed at 350 KG or slightly more. They are bigger than giant forest hogs.

Mark,

Any weight would justbe a guess on my part. My fish scales only go to 25 lbs He will rank # 5 in the current SCI Record Book which puts him around 33 total points and 11+1/2 " tusks.
At that same time another was taken in our adjacent area (Odo Bulo) that was just a bit bigger in both body and tusk mass. I'll guess this one at 450-500 lbs. There were a whole bunch of us wrestling it around during the skinning and caping process that night. A double pole litter was constructed to get the head and hide back to camp. A third GFH was taken in May in Odo Bulo but I don't have a picture or score for it yet. I also notice that Hanna Homaizi's big GFH that won 6th place in the African Awards at SCI this year isn't listed yet either. It scored 31 points.
Rich Elliott