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Has anyone read the provisions in the IMF load package proposal just announced? Looks like it would end the hunting industry in RSA? Is this true?


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I found a link here:

https://theconversation.com/th...tial-pitfalls-143553

It says:
 What restrictions are there on the government’s ability to use the money?
The IMF loan does not impose any conditions over and above what is in South African law on how the funds can be used. Consequently, the funds will be subject to the same procurement and accounting requirements as all other budgetary expenditure. 
 
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Nothing that I can find that relates to hunting:
https://www.imf.org/en/Publica...-Release-Staff-49612
 
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I can't find the whole document, only an excerpt from a post that a reliable South African acquaintance (now living in the US) posted on FB as evidence in the loan agreement restricting hunting. I have to say, though, that the high level requirements for the loan are very free market. So not sure why something like this would be in there. Maybe bad info? Thus why I'm asking. Here's a link the excerpt. https://photos.app.goo.gl/D4J18xcPbnXzNV66A


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I have been told by multiple folks that the IMF and agreements there is why Kenya is so steadfastly not hunting.
 
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Why would that surprise us at all
Too many misguided do gooders ready to run over dead bodies


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I have been told by multiple folks that the IMF and agreements there is why Kenya is so steadfastly not hunting.


Yes, 100% and that dates back to our ex Sec. of Defense Robert Strange McNamara who became head of the World Bank after leaving the Johnson administration.
 
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That makes sense.

That sorry MF killed how many American men, yet got worried about someone might have fun hunting and paying for it...

I’ve talked with several black Kenyans.

Shooting animals on farm properties is very common to this day.
 
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Just remember Doc that Trump has kill far more people with his mishandling of Covid that could easily have been much lower.

On the other hand, there is enough research done (Actual case studies) to prove that the whole Vietnam debacle was a result of "Group Think". People in decision making roles being swayed by "I think, he thinks, I think, he thinks...." syndrome. I actually studied that 40+ years ago.


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That makes sense.

That sorry MF killed how many American men, yet got worried about someone might have fun hunting and paying for it...

I’ve talked with several black Kenyans.

Shooting animals on farm properties is very common to this day.


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You must work very hard to be so stupid naki.....
 
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1. I hope the IMF does not expect repayment.... ever.

2. Generally there are strings attached with an IMF loan on how the funds are to be used. These are generally governance issues related to the national banking system and regulations. However, it has been widely reported that this is a "no strings attached loan" to the SA government so I would guess there is no language in the loan documents about hunting. Further, the economic damage caused by curtailing the hunting industry would exceed the size of this loan so hard to believe that the IMF would push this sort of agenda.


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1. I hope the IMF does not expect repayment.... ever.

2. Generally there are strings attached with an IMF loan on how the funds are to be used. These are generally governance issues related to the national banking system and regulations. However, it has been widely reported that this is a "no strings attached loan" to the SA government so I would guess there is no language in the loan documents about hunting. Further, the economic damage caused by curtailing the hunting industry would exceed the size of this loan so hard to believe that the IMF would push this sort of agenda.


No doubt Killing the hunting industry would make it even harder for SA to pay the loan back.


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TBD, l was thinking on very much the same lines...

Give loan, which in part stops hunting, The "Cow and Plough" return so reducing incomes, which reduces ability to repay loan..... Domination by Debt!!

Re-Colonialisation by the back door, under the excuse they're helping.
 
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