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I would have loved to share a campfire with Capstick.

Drunk or not, I know I am going to enjoy his company.





Share a campfire for his vivid story telling,...but would you extend that to hunting with a PH who is a wasted drunk?

This is a post from a past AR member... Allen Day.

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In 1995, when I first hunted in Tanzania, we had a Emmy Award winning video cameraman with us. He was hired him for the full season to film hunts, and as it turns out, this man was also one of the video photographers who filmed Peter Capstick's African hunting series of videos.

In a nutshell, he told me, under no uncertain terms, that Capstick was a physical wreck and a chronic alcoholic who had the DTs so bad that they had to prop him up with beer or two at the start of every morning, and that Capstick fumbled around in the bush, and did not demonstrate anything that would even remotely demonstrate familiarity, expertise or competence.




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DT's my ass it takes a few days/72hrs to develop DT'S.. the next morning you might have a handover BUT not DT'S... grow a brain cell or two and check your facts.
 
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Sean Russell,

A drunk Crapstick and you 'drinking water from a muddy puddle'... while... 'sweating real blood'
..would make for an interesting spectacle on safari.


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DT's my ass it takes a few days/72hrs to develop DT'S.. the next morning you might have a handover BUT not DT'S...
grow a brain cell or two and check your facts.


Since Crapstick was a chronic alcoholic, why would it not be possible for him to have the DTs whilst being filmed..?

A person who had a similar problem, Robert Ruark, personally wrote that he consumed 46 bottles of Gin over a 42 day safari.
 
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Sean Russell,

A drunk Crapstick and you 'drinking water from a muddy puddle'... while... 'sweating real blood'
..would make for an interesting spectacle on safari.


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donttroll Trax,read the timing on developing DT'S. a person must stop drinking for at least 72hrs. to develop DT'S ya dam donttroll
 
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read the timing on developing DT'S a person must stop drinking for at least 72hrs. to develop DT'S


DDrhook,...Maybe you should follow your own advice and extend your own reading - and hopefully your knowledge:...

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medline...y/article/000766.htm ... coffee


Its a severe withdrawal reaction that relates very much to heavy drinkers who have been regularly drinking for lengthy
and extended periods of time.

the DTs fit perfectly with the chronic alcoholic behaviour-lifestyle of Crapstick.
 
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Awesome - Capstick and Sullivan in the one thread!!! 2014 is going to start of in its usual fashion on AR!!! Roll Eyes rotflmo


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With all due respect regarding the comment “That is because he (MS) sets up the scenario himself...” I can only assume that is a conclusion based solely on viewing edited DVDs. I have been there many times with Mark and can say from my personal experiences that is not accurate.

I have tracked and hunted with Mark in the thickest bush and the most harrowing long grass to finish DG. If you think you are in control in those situations you are only fooling yourself. That comment is simply not grounded in any personal experiences hunting with Mark.

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The Tanzanian PH who MS apprenticed under backs-up the comment that MS sets-up the scenario. You can read about it in Professional Hunters for a Changing Africa by Terry Cacek.


I suppose he has been with MS since his appie days?

An absurd statement if ever there was one.

Jeff


He was there during the season in which MS's first movie was shot. He was not seen on camera, but was backing MS up on the buffalo "charge" that was caught on film.

I don't recall the name of the movie, but it was the one where MS sneaked up to a wounded buffalo from the rear on a wide open plain then stood his ground waiting for the buff to notice him. The buffalo rose and charged. MS missed the brain on the first shot, then brained it with his second shot.

Anyway, it looked like MS was doing this with no back-up when he actually had a senior PH backing him up.


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Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

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With all due respect regarding the comment “That is because he (MS) sets up the scenario himself...” I can only assume that is a conclusion based solely on viewing edited DVDs. I have been there many times with Mark and can say from my personal experiences that is not accurate.

I have tracked and hunted with Mark in the thickest bush and the most harrowing long grass to finish DG. If you think you are in control in those situations you are only fooling yourself. That comment is simply not grounded in any personal experiences hunting with Mark.

Shawn


The Tanzanian PH who MS apprenticed under backs-up the comment that MS sets-up the scenario. You can read about it in Professional Hunters for a Changing Africa by Terry Cacek.


I suppose he has been with MS since his appie days?

An absurd statement if ever there was one.

Jeff


He was there during the season in which MS's first movie was shot. He was not seen on camera, but was backing MS up on the buffalo "charge" that was caught on film.

I don't recall the name of the movie, but it was the one where MS sneaked up to a wounded buffalo from the rear on a wide open plain then stood his ground waiting for the buff to notice him. The buffalo rose and charged. MS missed the brain on the first shot, then brained it with his second shot.

Anyway, it looked like MS was doing this with no back-up when he actually had a senior PH backing him up.


Jason, My BULLSHIT meter just got pinned on this one.

That was MS' first real charge. He had a disabled client in the truck and allowed him to shoot from the hunting frame. Mark followed on foot, whilst the cruiser followed along behind.

That was a typical buffalo hunt and nothing out of the ordinary until that charge.

If this guys is so sure of himself, name him.

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I've been reading "Death and Double Rifles." Mark says what he does and why. He sounds to have a wealth of experience and knowledge. He has lived a life many of us would enjoy. Not only that, but those are some nice doubles he profiles at the end.


I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills.

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trax,
you are obviously a troll, who knows nothing about anything.
 
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Whether you like it or not,
Crapstick was a chronic alcoholic that suffered the DTs due to his heavy excessive,extended,self abusive drinking.
A chronic wasted alcoholic BS artist bartender with a rifle who 'bought' a no training or testing required PH licence,
may be what impresses or inspires you, ...but it certainly does not impress or inspire me.


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In 1995, when I first hunted in Tanzania, we had a Emmy Award winning video cameraman with us. He was hired him for the full season to film hunts, and as it turns out, this man was also one of the video photographers who filmed Peter Capstick's African hunting series of videos.

In a nutshell, he told me, under no uncertain terms, that Capstick was a physical wreck and a chronic alcoholic who had the DTs so bad that they had to prop him up with beer or two at the start of every morning, and that Capstick fumbled around in the bush, and did not demonstrate anything that would even remotely demonstrate familiarity, expertise or competence.
 
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Jason, My BULLSHIT meter just got pinned on this one.

That was MS' first real charge. He had a disabled client in the truck and allowed him to shoot from the hunting frame. Mark followed on foot, whilst the cruiser followed along behind.

That was a typical buffalo hunt and nothing out of the ordinary until that charge.

If this guys is so sure of himself, name him.

Steve


Steve
Maybe you are missing my point about "setting up the scenario". I AM NOT asserting that MS purposely wounds buffalo, then goads them into charging(We have heard it all whispered on this forum: MS shoots them in the balls with a .22 or that he and his clients purposely gut shoot them, etc. That has all been shown to be total BS IMO).

I agree that this was a normal hunt with a disabled hunter. At least it was a normal hunt right up until the point that MS stood there and waited for the (very sick)buffalo to rise and charge instead of dispatching it as quickly and humanely as possible.

The facts: the buffalo was alive but mortally wounded. MS could have put it down with a finishing shot, thereby ending its suffering, but he instead held off on taking the shot. A couple of seconds later the buffalo made the charge that MS was waiting for. MS was ready and he put it down.

It was impressive. It showed great skill and bravery. It made MS famous. MS enjoyed it.

That is all well and good but it does not change the fact that he prolonged the buffalo's suffering for his own benefit.

This is the antithesis of sportsmanship.

As to the name of the PH that MS apprenticed under: I no longer have the book but the book does name the senior PH. A chapter is dedicated to his bio. It does not name MS by name(for legal reasons obviously) but it makes it very, very clear that MS is the PH they are referring to (an American PH with a successful line of hunting videos that are marketed for their charges).


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Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

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That was MS' first real charge. He had a disabled client in the truck and allowed him to shoot from the hunting frame. Mark followed on foot, whilst the cruiser followed along behind.


If that was the case why did he (MS) not give his client the satisfaction of finishing it off from the top of the vehicle, from where he took his first shot? coffee
 
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Whether you like it or not,
Crapstick was a chronic alcoholic that suffered the DTs due to his heavy excessive,extended,self abusive drinking.
A chronic wasted alcoholic BS artist bartender with a rifle who 'bought' a no training or testing required PH licence,
may be what impresses or inspires you, ...but it certainly does not impress or inspire me.


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In 1995, when I first hunted in Tanzania, we had a Emmy Award winning video cameraman with us. He was hired him for the full season to film hunts, and as it turns out, this man was also one of the video photographers who filmed Peter Capstick's African hunting series of videos.

In a nutshell, he told me, under no uncertain terms, that Capstick was a physical wreck and a chronic alcoholic who had the DTs so bad that they had to prop him up with beer or two at the start of every morning, and that Capstick fumbled around in the bush, and did not demonstrate anything that would even remotely demonstrate familiarity, expertise or competence.




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Too bad Capstick isn't alive today. I'd like to buy him a drink or two, sit around the campfire, and tell tall tales of daring do!

Cheers to you sir!

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If Capstick was alive today, I would invite him to come with me on safari, and let him do his usual wrings on what goes on during the safari - especially Walter's antics!

That should keep you lot busy for while clap


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A drunk Crapstick and you 'drinking water from a muddy puddle'... while... 'sweating real blood'
..would make for an interesting spectacle on safari.



i guess you would actually have to go on safari then to find out. why is it that you so prolifically blather on about topics you obviously know little about? i must compliment you on your googling abilities though.


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I think it should be a mandatory requirement world wide, that every 5 years, each and every LICENSED hunter, must write an article about one of their hunts during that 5 year time frame, and before being allowed to obtain another hunting license anywhere, said article must be submitted for review and judgment by the membership of AR using all the power of the combined knowledge and experiences of said membership.

Should the hunter not receive a 90% approval rating from said membership, which said approval shall be based upon and in order, the hunters personal life/drinking habits/financial status and sexual relationships-preferences accounting for 75% of the approval rating with the remaining 15% to qualify for a new license being determined by the persons actual hunting skills/experience/success and knowledge.

Actually knowing or being acquainted with the hunter or actually hot knowing/being acquainted with or even having met the hunter will have no bearing on the outcome on the finally approval rating.


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I wish I had the time back I spent reading this thread.

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DT's my ass it takes a few days/72hrs to develop DT'S.. the next morning you might have a handover BUT not DT'S... grow a brain cell or two and check your facts.


Absolutely true. A hardened alcoholic will sometimes take a week to go into DTs. The DTs are caused by the disappearance of alcohol in the system, and when the liver can't become active because of the abuse, the DT's start. Even a casual drinker who drinks enough to get drunk, will still have alcohol in his system for as much as two days after his last drink.

There is no denying that PHC was an alcoholic, but TRAX's words are simply the same old BS he always spouts! As always he speaks of things he has no knowledge on! If it weren't for books he would simply be lost!


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Here ya go Trax, if you sober up read this. or have your mommy read it to you.

The main symptoms of delirium tremens are nightmares, agitation, global confusion, disorientation, visual and [7] auditory hallucinations, fever, hypertension, diaphoresis, and other signs of autonomic hyperactivity (tachycardia and hypertension). These symptoms may appear suddenly but can develop 2–3 days after cessation of drinking heavily with its highest intensity on the fourth or fifth day.[8] Also, these "symptoms are characteristically worse at night".[9] In general DT is considered as the most severe manifestation of alcohol withdrawal, which occurs 3–10 days following the last drink.[7] Other common symptoms include intense perceptual disturbance such as visions of insects, snakes, or rats. These may be hallucinations, or illusions related to the environment, e.g., patterns on the wallpaper or in the peripheral vision that the patient falsely perceives as a resemblance to the morphology of an insect, and are also associated with tactile hallucinations such as sensations of something crawling on the subject — a phenomenon known as formication. Delirium tremens usually includes extremely intense feelings of "impending doom". Severe anxiety and feelings of imminent death are symptomatic of DT.
DT can sometimes be associated with severe, uncontrollable tremors of the extremities and secondary symptoms such as anxiety, panic attacks and paranoia. Confusion is often noticeable to onlookers as patients will have trouble constructing simple sentences or making basic logical calculations. In many cases, people who rarely speak out of turn will have an increased tendency for gaffes even though they are sober.
DT should be distinguished from alcoholic hallucinosis, the latter occurring in approximately 20% of hospitalized alcoholics and not carrying a significant mortality. In contrast, DT occurs in 5–10% of alcoholics and carries up to 15% mortality with treatment and up to 35% mortality without treatment.[2] DT is characterized by the presence of altered sensorium; that is, a complete hallucination without any recognition of the real world. DT has extreme autonomic hyperactivity (high pulse, blood pressure, and rate of breathing), and 35-60% of patients have a fever. Some patients experience seizures.
 
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I think it should be a mandatory requirement world wide, that every 5 years, each and every LICENSED hunter, must write an article about one of their hunts during that 5 year time frame, and before being allowed to obtain another hunting license anywhere, said article must be submitted for review and judgment by the membership of AR using all the power of the combined knowledge and experiences of said membership.

Should the hunter not receive a 90% approval rating from said membership, which said approval shall be based upon and in order, the hunters personal life/drinking habits/financial status and sexual relationships-preferences accounting for 75% of the approval rating with the remaining 15% to qualify for a new license being determined by the persons actual hunting skills/experience/success and knowledge.

Actually knowing or being acquainted with the hunter or actually hot knowing/being acquainted with or even having met the hunter will have no bearing on the outcome on the finally approval rating.

"It is impossible to speak in such a way that you cannot be misunderstood."


CHC, I understand that the post was meant to be sarcastic, and most will take it as a very condescending in nature as it was meant, but I found it funny as hell!

jumping jumping jumping


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Agreed,

We need to find the worthless SOB who started this thread and kick his ass!

A subject as serious as making fun of all Sullivan and Capstick combined threads SHOULD NOT BE PERMITTED on this web site.



 
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I wish I had the time back I spent reading this thread. Jeff


It went south with the appearance of Trax. SR had it exactly right with his Don't feed the trolls! sign - but the real problem cases are those who get drawn in by him.
 
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I wish I had the time back I spent reading this thread.

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Agreed,

We need to find the worthless SOB who started this thread and kick his ass!

A subject as serious as making fun of all Sullivan and Capstick combined threads SHOULD NOT BE PERMITTED on this web site.


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but I found it funny as hell


Thankfully, some of us are old enough and not as full of ourselves as others are, to understand that some topics/issues are totally meaningless.

I just find it strange that so many "Hunters", hold folks such as Capstick/Sullivan/Boddington/Ruark/Taylor, etc. etc. ewtc. to a hell of a lot higher standard than the hold themselves.

It is like all hunters have turned themselves into Democrats and Republicans. We are all just people, what does our Personal life/mistakes have to do with our abilities as a hunter?


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