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Wildlife Artist, See ya there, I'll buy the first round. Cheers, PG | |||
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I feel as FOsteology and T.Carr do. My hunts either alone or with my best friend in Illinois were far more satisfying than my one, brief hunt in Namibia. The sights and sounds of Africa are unforgettable, but nothing beats hunting with only your skills responsible for the outcome. I will probably go to Africa again to hunt someday, but I daydream of the past hunts in Illinois. | |||
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Hey folks, it is two different ball games all together. If you want to be pampered, Africa is the place to go. I thoroughly enjoyed my Cape Buffalo Safari, but I felt a little guilty with the other guys doing all the work, and by the end of the hunt, I kind of got lazy as a hound dog and expected it. Someone mentioned a 12K Elk hunt as compared to a 12K Elephant hunt. I have a 12K Elk hunt each year in Colorado with my son, grandson and 14 buddys, doing it ourselves. If we paid for an Elk hunt it simply would not be the same. Yes, we have killed some near B&C bulls and expect to find more each year, and we do it our way, without paying a guide and shooting the animals he found. I am not deminishing either way of hunting, I am simply saying it is two different ways of hunting, each with it's strong points. Good shooting. phurley | |||
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There is no hunting like African hunting; there is no African hunting like African dangerous game hunting; and there is no African dangerous game hunting like tracking and stalking lion, buffalo and elephant on foot and at close range. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Amen. | |||
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Probably India was more interesting but that is gone. It would be great to re-create Indian hunting someplace wild like the Cobourg Peninsula or Arhemland in Australia by introducing Indian elephant, tiger, gaur, Indian rhino, Dhole or red dogs, Indian wolves, sun bears, sloth bears etc etc. The buffalo, crocs and banteng are already there. Then maybe some scimitar horned Ibex and addax and aoudad in the desert instead of camels, goats and donkies. VBR, Ted Gorsline VBR, Ted Gorsline | |||
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I must agree that hunting Africa has ruined me for most other hunting. I enjoy PG hunting. It is cost effective. One can harvest many and varied animals. I love to shoot Baboons. I also consider a PG hunt to be a vacation. I am there to enjoy myself. I have no problem in having a PH and trackers etc. I have done many public land hunts and busted my butt hunting tracking, gutting and dragging, all for one critter. I don't enjoy it as much as I used to and as I get older, there are physical limitations. Hence, I hunt on private land with someone else who can get the game out or help me. I enjoy the travel and both before and after the hunt, I like to see different places. DG hunting to me is the greatest thrill. No other hunting compares. I have been charged by a wounded Cape Buf. The experience was second to none. I can't even explain it. Needless to say, I hunt buff at the beginning of my hunt and PG at the end. I don't care how many trackers or PH's you have with you. When the charge comes it is an individual RUSH. The only hunting in NA I still enjoy is hogs. Almost like mini Buff. This is my story, YMMV. Regards, PG | |||
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Wolfgar, I must disagree with you. Any day afield, be it for woodchucks in the "Jewish Congo" (Catskills) or stalking Dugga boys along the banks of the Chewore. On the slopes of the Bairds looking into the craigs for a Dall or peeking from bush to bush for the elusive whatever. There is no bad hunting days, just occasionally poor company (never repeated) or inclement weather putting a damper on the festivities. Yes, we all develope favorite pursuits, those which best match our own makeup, or patterning our inner drives. Some animals just give a better thrill ride, but all and all... just let me be out there trying. Good hunting where ever. Member NRA, SCI- Life #358 28+ years now! DRSS, double owner-shooter since 1983, O/U .30-06 Browning Continental set. | |||
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You betcha! 5 trips to 3 African countries hasn't spoiled me for hunting elsewhere. Some hunting is better than other hunting, but no hunting is bad hunting, and any hunting is better than none. Add that to The Things I Learned From My Dog. Maybe the dog's nighttime wiggles and whimpers are memories of hunts gone by, but when the sun comes up and it is hunting time, the dog is entirely engrossed in the NOW of it all. Hunt now and sleep when you're dead. All skill is in vain when a demon pisses on your gunpowder. | |||
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Africa has not taken the edge off one bit Lets face it, taking on an old bull in the long grass is an adrenalin rush unlike any other. Hunting plains game in RSA with a knowledgeable PH is an experience I will never forget. What I learned about the history of RSA and the Boers is not to be found in a book. What a perspective! I still look forward to the Duck Blind in the fall, good dogs, good friends is tough to beat. I love to stalk the Canadian Honkers in the grain fields. I have turned down deer for the last two years. I am fortunate to be able to hunt every day during the season, taking a deer opening day would end my season (unless it was a real monster). I bow hunt the early season just because it puts me in the field two extra week. While I have never taken a hog, I spend many days hunting BLM land, I am sure that sometime in the last 10 years a pig wandered through. Point is, hunting is not killing, hunting is being out in the field, enjoying what ever comes along. When the seasons are closed, did I mention Wild Steelhead......... Jim "Bwana Umfundi" NRA | |||
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Ah, yes Steelhead. . .nickel bright, fresh from the ocean and as feisty as a fish can be. . . But that is for another thread. You can NEVER get enough of Africa and of her dangerous game. | |||
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have enjoyed hunts in namibia,south africa and zimbabwe.will go back every chance,but africa cannot replace north america.too bad africa isn't more do-it-yourself friendly,it would be much more competitive if it were so.any semi-guided hunts out there ? If u want missing trophies,stolen trophies,crap mounts or replacement minature trophies .....use KARL HUMAN TAXIDERMY in east london, south africa. | |||
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For me the disapointment seems to be in the way the hunting is done. After walking (and yes, riding in the truck as well) over thousands of acres then stalking close enough for a shot, the typical deer hunting tactic of sitting on your butt and ambushing some oblivious buck is pretty lame. Walk and stalk here in the states you say? Yeah right, the fact that few local hunting venues exceed a couple hundred acres would make for a short "walk" and close property borders make the "stalk" unlikely. Then of course when you do shoot a deer you're on your own for the recovery, dressing and maybe even butchering after having several "helpers" handling all these nasty tasks for you in Africa! Add the difference between hunting in shirt sleeves vs. freezing your butt off and the verdict is in. Spoiled? Not the hunt but yeah, I'm spoiled. An old man sleeps with his conscience, a young man sleeps with his dreams. | |||
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Hi Oupa, I was interested in what you say about the hunting style...I have never hunted in the USA and assume you perhaps mean the East? The 'limits' here you imply would make for interesting addition to the threads that always rage on about 'high fenced' properties in RSA, many of which are over 10 thousand of acres, some much larger still, not a few hundred between property boundaries (I realise not 'high fenced' where you are but an issue of ownership/tresspassing). Just interesting on how much mobility you seem to have in the area you hunt? Thanks cheers | |||
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