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How many Masailand Concessions are there?

Who are the top PH’s hunting in the Masailand?

Who are the Concession holders?
Did the recent Tanzania auction create any changes within the Masailand Concessions for this year?
Will there be changes in the Masailand concession holders for next year?
 
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I haven't counted the exact figure, but there are probably around 15+ northern blocks. Most of the changes will take place next year, and there is quite a bit of shuffling.


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And…. Prices are going through the roof! To the point that most people will not be able to afford such a hunt. I recently saw a quote for trophy fees in Masailand next year of $7,800 for lesser kudu and oryx, and $10,000 for gerenuk. Nearly $26,000 in TF for just those 3 animals.
 
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I knew I should have shot a Gerenuk for $1200 when I had the chance Frowner


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Some of the Masailand blocks have been subdivided like Kitwai and Natron so that makes it difficult to understand who has what. Also, some have transitioned to WMA status.

I understand that some of the blocks have suffered from increased farming and felling of trees for coal.

There is a list of blocks posted here on AR of the areas affected by the recent auction. This should clarify things somewhat. I don't think all Northern/Masai blocks were in the auction.

I'll be interested to learn from those who have knowledge of this subject.
 
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Pretty hard to get accurate information at this time. It seems as though some concessions will be changing hands and the concession holders are not open to discussing the changes. Lack of water, additional farming , increase of goats vs cattle and more fragmentation of the land all seem to be contributing factors in the changes going on.
 
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It may be a better question to ask:
Who are the top PH’s who are active in hunting the Masailand ?
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It may be a better question to ask:
Who are the top PH’s who are active in hunting the Masailand ?
4WD


Quintin Whitehead and Zidane Janbeck are two fantastic PHs who really go out of their way to show you a good time!
 
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Some of the Masailand blocks have been subdivided like Kitwai and Natron so that makes it difficult to understand who has what. Also, some have transitioned to WMA status.


I'll be interested to learn from those who have knowledge of this subject.




Dahav,
I don’t not believe there is anyone on here who has knowledge of this subject.
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Originally posted by Dahav:
Some of the Masailand blocks have been subdivided like Kitwai and Natron so that makes it difficult to understand who has what. Also, some have transitioned to WMA status.


I'll be interested to learn from those who have knowledge of this subject.




Dahav,
I don’t not believe there is anyone on here who has knowledge of this subject.
4WD


Yes- its pretty fluid! According to the auction results Bushman Safaris won Burko so you might want to reach out to Mike Fell.
 
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I'll be interested to learn from those who have knowledge of this subject.


Yes- its pretty fluid! According to the auction results Bushman Safaris won Burko so you might want to reach out to Mike Fell.[/QUOTE]


Dahav ,
Thanks for your replies. Mike Fell is one of the PH’s I have reached out to. He’s a pretty busy guy, in high demand. Not sure yet if he has any availability.
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The bids have to actually be paid and no one could possibly pay what was bid on Burko unless some billionaire just plans on making it private. No way to make a profit.
 
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The bids have to actually be paid and no one could possibly pay what was bid on Burko unless some billionaire just plans on making it private. No way to make a profit.


Bushman handed the area back, and said their bid was a mistake. It was re-auctioned and fetched a lower price.


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Is a list yet available of the companies that actually paid for their concessions?
 
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Trappe/Gerard Miller posted a really big lion in Masailand the other day. Anyone know which block?
 
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Trappe/Gerard Miller posted a really big lion in Masailand the other day. Anyone know which block?


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Fulvio,

Any details on that lion?
 
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Fulvio,

Any details on that lion?


None really other than having been taken in the late afternoon and a specimen like that never before seen in the area.
 
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Not surprising that Gerard pulled that off. I've seen him do that many times.
 
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Gerard Miller is a brilliant PH and person!
 
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Shooting an exceptional trophy boils down to pure luck.

Being at the right place at the right time.

This is not distract from Gerard being a great PH.


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Shooting an exceptional trophy boils down to pure luck.

Being at the right place at the right time.

This is not distract from Gerard being a great PH.


But being at the right place at the right time is not always a matter of pure luck.

For example, perhaps anyone can see that a bait in a tree is being hit.

But first, someone had to choose the right tree in which to place that bait.

And afterwards, someone had to place the blind correctly.

These are matters involving skill, not just luck.


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Last year, we baited carefully and had great trees and blinds. We worked hard and did everything right. Couldn't get a mature lion on bait to save our souls. Finally, the hunt ended and I had to fly out mid-day. The next day, a wonderful lion was lying under one of our baits and the next hunter took him and no doubt wondered what the big deal was to this lion hunting.
 
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Shooting an exceptional trophy boils down to pure luck.

Being at the right place at the right time.

This is not distract from Gerard being a great PH.


But being at the right place at the right time is not always a matter of pure luck.

For example, perhaps anyone can see that a bait in a tree is being hit.

But first, someone had to choose the right tree in which to place that bait.

And afterwards, someone had to place the blind correctly.

These are matters involving skill, not just luck.


Mike,

I have been hunting for 40 years.

And you are right, some skill is required.

But any PH worth the name would meet these skill.

Again, I am not trying to distract from the gentleman being mentioned.

I am just pointing FACTS.

I hunt lions and leopards every year.

I got into all sort of situations which really make us all scratch our heads.

We had a good male feeding on one of our baits.

We sat in the blind, and he came to feed.

It was too dark to shoot, and by the time it got light enough, he had fed and was lying very close to our blind.

We could hear him, and see movement, but he was hidden too much for a shot.

We had to stay in the blind until quite late in the morning, as we did not want to disturb him.

We waited until he left.

We gave him a bit of time, and got out of the blind, and were driving back to camp.

The trackers saw him lying in grass not far from us.

Off the truck we got, and got to about 80 yards of him.

All we could see was the top of his head, and his ears.

I got on the shooting sticks, and waited.

And waited.

And waited.

Eventually he got up, and all I got was a couple of seconds as he got up to turn before he disappeared into the bush again.

I fired at him.

We looked at each other, and suddenly we could hear him growl.

All of a sudden, a big smile appeared on Alan's face.

I asked what was going on, he said, "we got him. He is dying"

A few minutes we went to look, and found him stone dead.

Bad luck for him.


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Don't get me wrong, I do not disagree that hunting involves a huge element of luck!

But some skill, too, when done right.

I have fed more hyenas and vultures and jackals, etc., with lion baits than I can recount!

We have not been much luckier with leopard baits, either. Actually, our luck has been worse with leopard baits.

In fact, we once had a huge bloody lioness climb up a tree and eat half an impala we were using for leopard bait!

All that she left us were hooves!

Luck can be kind, or so I have heard, but in cat hunting, my luck has been more often cruel.


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Let us hope your luck with lions doesn’t match ours!

The bloody thing started attacking our very flimsy hide.

Tore holes in it.

Missing Roy’s back by inches!

Exciting stuff.

Alan fired a shot through the roof of the blind.

Luckily our truck was not very far and came over when they heard the shot.

There two lions.

One remained with a few yards of us as we ran away.

Got him next day in the evening.

Second one we found lying in the bush 20 yards away.

Again could only see his head and the top of his body.

He kept looking at us.

If he had charged us only one shot would have been possible.

Luckily he didn’t.

He got up and turned around to go.

One shot behind his should dropped him 5 yards further.

Lucky for us.

Not for him.

It could have been the exact opposite!


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Saeed, the big cats are not inclined to cooperate, in my experience.

I have seen far more hyenas on lion baits than lions. Now that I think about it, I have actually never seen a shootable lion on a lion bait.

I have ended up tracking the ones I shot.

But I could have shot a dozen or more hyenas off of lion baits by now, if only I had been willing.

And of course, when I have wanted to shoot a hyena, and baited them, and worked hard to get one, they were nowhere to be found!


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Here is another lucky one for you.

I have shot hundreds of buffalo, and the biggest - 49 inches with a broken horn - could not have been any easier.

Driving in the afternoon in Chete on our way to a leopard blind.

We saw two bulls running into the hills very close to us.

Jumped out of the truck, and 5 minutes later both were dead.

One of them was this one.

Got back into the truck and drove to the blind, and sent the truck to take them back to camp. clap


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Buffalo and cats are my favorite things to hunt I think. Cats are always a chess game. How to get them on bait during daylight. Once, we got a bright idea with a leopard that was consistently coming in late and leaving just before daylight. We tied some buffalo hides down between the blind and the bait tree and sat him in the morning. We arrived well before daylight.

The plan was for hyenas to find the buffalo hides in the night and keep the leopard in the tree. The start of the plan worked like a charm. We could hear the leopard feeding in the tree and then the hyenas showed up, between the tree and our blind. Still pitch black. The buffalo hides were only about 30 yards or so from the blind.

The hyenas were very exited to find those green hides and they celebrated boisterously. Too boisterously. Plan was working. Leopard was stuck in the tree.

Then the lions showed up. A whole pride. Wish I could have seen the battle but it was something to listen to, especially at close range. When it got light, the hyenas were gone, the lions had dragged the buffalo hides away and the leopard was long gone. It was an interesting morning.
 
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I am currently in the process of getting all my licenses and Papers under Kiombero North, " Zidane and Quinting" so I Neil also be one of their Ph's. We hunt Ngaserai and one of the Natron blocks.

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It may be a better question to ask:
Who are the top PH’s who are active in hunting the Masailand ?
4WD


Quintin Whitehead and Zidane Janbeck are two fantastic PHs who really go out of their way to show you a good time!
 
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Get in touch with Mike Fell or Quinton Whitehead and be done with it!


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