What have people found when using a 270gr TSX at H&H velocities, on "lighter" animals than buffalo?

I just worked up a very accurate load for my 375 Ruger with them.

Has anyone experienced less than good expansion with them on longer (250-300 yards) broadside shots on animals like bears or moose or any African animals that are of similar size/structure?

I read a few posts questioning thier ability to open up on moose, I'd like more opinions.

Gatehouse, I have no personal experiance with the 270 gr TSX, but a buddy of mine went to Moz this past Sept and took buff, bushbuck, sable, reedbuck, and croc with them. He swears buy'm. JC

They are my favorite bullets in the 375 for everything from big bears to deer.

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Originally posted by 458Win:
They are my favorite bullets in the 375 for everything from big bears to deer.

I take it you have had no expansion issues then.

I just posted in the other topic, but I'll post here for others to see also. I use the 270 TSX in an H&H at about 2700 fpr at 20 yards on a small deer. It had a pencil size hole in and a silver dollar size hole out without much meat damage. I did not hit any bones.

I could not find the bullet (obviously), but from the wounds, I think it expanded.

I whacked a springbok with them without much damage to the cape. The exit hole would indicate adequate expansion. It was a bit much for the jackal though with lots of pelt damage. It was perfect for the bigger stuff (zebra, wildebeest, eland, etc.)

My PH in Namibia, Mike Kibble loads the 270TSX in his 375. I saw him whack a Oyrx with one at about 180 yards..........took a NICE exit in that Oryx

I've used the 270 TSX in my 375 H&H and 378 Weatherby to take Baboon, Springbok, Black Wildebeest, Gemsbok, Blue Wildebeest and Eland at various distances up to 300 yards. Those that didn't drop in their tracks didn't go far. At the moment, I'm inclined to take my 378 and the 270 TSX this June when I go after waterbuck and other assorted smaller critters.

I'm glad you asked this question as I've been wondering the same. I plan on using this bullet for grizz and moose this fall from a 375 weatherby (2800-2900fps) and would like to add to your question. Has anyone used this bullet at slightly higher than h&h velocities?

Gatehouse,
I have used them on buf and plains game and never had a failure.
My thoughts on bullets that do not open is this... An X bullet is a hollow point, drop it, deform, or flatten the tip and the results are it does not expand...
How many of us look at the tip of a hollow point to see if is open or damaged?
I recently spoke to a Barnes rep and he told me that the the TSX starts to open in the first 1.5 inches of penetration...
I will be using them again this summer on my hunt in Tanzania...

Mike

Flint,
My pet 378 load with the 270 TSX is at a modest 2900 fps for the cartridge. I haven't hunted griz with it but expansion has been excellent on the African game I've taken.

I used them on everything from bushbuck to buff to hippo and they are fantastic.

This one was recovered from from my buff and still weighed exactly 270 grains.

TSX or even the the original Barnes X. I have shot a lot of different animals with it, never shot a Buffalo with it, but a client did.

Wildebeest, Buffalo, Wild Hog, Waterbuck, Kudu, Warthog, Impala, Hartebeest, Springbuck, the list goes on and on.

I am a firm believer in the 270 grain TSX or even the old Barnes X in the .375 caliber.

It is my bullet of choice.

Haven't used the 270 TSX extensively ... but have seen great results with the 300 TSX at 2600 fps muzzle velocity on feral pigs of a variety of size, whitetails, and a Hartebeast.

Recovered one from the Hartebeast after it traveled from one end to the other ... perfect mushroom with 100% retained weight.

The hollowpoint in the 300 grainer is much larger than that of the .270 grain bullet. I wonder if that makes any significant difference.

I had very good experience using the TSX in generally. Everything from Cape Buffalo, Plains Game, Deer, and a Bobcat...using a 458 Lott, 375 H&H, 30-378, and a 308 winchester. The performance has been fantasic in every instance, short range and long range.

In my 375 H&H, I have only used the 270 grain TSX's and it has worked on Buff and PG. The longest shot on game was a one shot kill on a Zebra right at 250 yds...entered behind the shoulder and out the offside neck/shoulder area. I have used this combination on several other PG, at shorter ranges, all one shot kills.

The TSX is a very good bullet...

I have used them on a variety of animals with zero expansion

Tod,
Did you recover the bullets to see there was no expansion or are you guessing there was no expansion by the size of the exit hole? Barnes bullets seem to leave a smaller than normal exit hole even while expanding. This has been my experience. Connie Brooks (co-owner of barnes) talks about it in reloading manual #4 on the 338 win mag write up. That is one of the positives for her as she likes minimal hide damage on her full-body mounts.

More often than not Barnes bullets aren't recovered due to their penetration.

tod is bullshitting, just to annoy me...ha ha ha

He was shooting ground squirrls, prarie dogs, and marmots... Bullets did not expand but blew them to pieces ... bullet failure to explosive...


Mike

I've used the 375 270 TSX combo on the last couple of safaris and have been very please with it. I think if I had to choose one big game rifle and bullet combo today for everything other than ele it would be the 375 270TSX combo.

Mark

Gatehouse - I have been using the 270 gr. x-bullet and/or TSX for years now in my .375 RUM. John LaSala from Safari Arms Ltd. loads them all for me at about 2900 FPS at the muzzle. In N.A. I have shot several moose, along with Brown Bear, Polar Bear, Bison, elk, etc, etc, all with tremendous results! In Africa 6-7 buffalo, 7-8 lions, 4 hippo, a couple of elephants that both dropped like a brick, and 30-40 plains game animals, with nothing but wonderful results. Numerous times I have shot 150 - 250 yards with no problem, and I shot an Elephant in Bots in July 2008 at 47 yards frontal brain with a 270 grain Barnes Solid! The bullet exited just behind and above the right ear as it laid back flat against the ele. It easily went through 4-5 feet of elephant head, before exiting! A .375 in combination with a 270 grain bullet gives any African hunter capability at long-distance shooting, along with enough gun for the biggest African game. Just my opinion!!!