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im looking at a 7mm for plains game ive hunted with the 7x57 before and was very impressed i want to know how the 7x64 compair to the 7x57 at this stage i cant find a 7x57 at any dealer "Buy land they have stopped making it"- Mark Twain | ||
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I think the 7x57 is one of the top classics that is still a great medium caliber today but if you want a step up in ballistics in a continental caliber that fits the same action, the 7x64Breneke is a good option. | |||
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I started out hunting with a 7x57. Killed muy first elephant and eland with it as a teenager. Great round-BUT, I would choose the 7x64 for all round use. Get an invite to do some hunting in the Karroo or Kalahari- the flater trajectory of the 7x64 helps. Even on Zebra/wildebeest size game, a 7x57 is definitely the "minimum" recomended... Also, many 7x57's are rifled 1:9 and are seldom accurate with any bullet under 160grns. Several 7x64's I have used were rifled 1:10 and 1:11 and gave excelent accuracy will all bullet weights from 154- 175grns. All round, the 7x64 is a little longer but alot better. | |||
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The standard twist rate for both the 7 x 57 and 7 x 64 is 1:8.7". The tighter twist rate barrel is able to handle a wider range in bullet lengths (i.e. bullet weights) than the one with a larger twist rate - 1:10" or 1:11". Very important with monolithic bullets like GSC HV, where 120 to 130gr requires twist rates between 1:8.2" and 1:9" respectively. That's the way to go with your 7 x 57 or 64! OWLS My Africa, with which I will never be able to live without! | |||
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7x64 jy hou mos daarvan om gemsbokke en springbokke te skiet. Frederik Cocquyt I always try to use enough gun but then sometimes a brainshot works just as good. | |||
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7*64 is the most used caliber in France. No sound guy will prefer the 7*57 that only the old guys are still (rarely) using. The cause could be because 30.06 and 308 are illegal here. Now most of the hunters are more and more using the 300WM and the 270WM is more and more fashionable. 7x64 is an enjoyable caliber to hunt from the fox up to the 400lbs red stag. Very accurate and easy to handload. IMO, no doubt the 7x64 is streets ahead. J B de Runz Be careful when blindly following the masses ... generally the "m" is silent | |||
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&X64 is good from 120gr for Springbok, up to 175gr for Blue Wildebeest. You'll like the flatter trajectory and it's not fussy to load for. My std load is 130gr HPBT-MK (Moly) + 53gr S365 = 2950fps. This for SAHRSA competition. 120gr SP + 54gr S365 = ~3100fps for jumpgoats. If Chuck Norris dives into a swimming pool, he does not get wet. The swimming pool gets Chuck Norris. | |||
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7X64 is good from 120gr for Springbok, up to 175gr for Blue Wildebeest. You'll like the flatter trajectory and it's not fussy to load for. My std load is 130gr HPBT-MK (Moly) + 53gr S365 = 2950fps. This for SAHRSA competition. 120gr SP + 54gr S365 = ~3100fps for jumpgoats. If Chuck Norris dives into a swimming pool, he does not get wet. The swimming pool gets Chuck Norris. | |||
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I would opt for a long throated 7x57, load with H414 and you can beat the socks off the 7x64 or .280 Rem... All are fine rounds, but for those that live in the USA then the .280 would be a better choice IMO, even though Remington makes 7x64 brass. Just my opinion and certainly argueable. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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My first centerfire rifle was a 7x57 and I love it. The 7x64 is close on the ballistics of the 7mmRemMag. I suspect that the brass for the Rem version is much more available that the 7x64. Why not go with it?? In the end, I don't believe you will realize more than an additional 25yds of range with the larger case. A Nosler 160gr Partition out of either should handle most plains game. Kudude | |||
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Like Atkinson, I use and like the 7x57 because it was my first rifle (no option then), I have a lot of cases and loaded ammunition. Having used the 7x64 and also handload for it, my experience is: In factory loads, the 7x64 is much, much better, with many more options and with a noticeable better balistics. In handloads in similar barrels (european, large free-bore, etc), I couldn´t find more than 100 fps in full loads. Also in my experience, the best factory loads for big game in both, in terms of accuracy, repeatability betwen different lots, consistency of velocity and quality of the bullets (I like best the H-Mantle in both) are the RWS. In the end, for a first rifle now it must be the 7x64. PH | |||
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My vote goes to the 7x64, because I have one and it pushes the heavier bullets a little faster. I'd have a 7x57 if Sako chambered their rifles for it. Lou **************** NRA Life Benefactor Member | |||
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Either is a great round. It is a bit like choosing between a .308 and a .30-06. The longer case of the 7x64 gives it a bit more of everything compared to the 7x57, which still remains a very capable round. Get the caliber that has ammo, components and dies available. That will make life simpler in the future. - mike ********************* The rifle is a noble weapon... It entices its bearer into primeval forests, into mountains and deserts untenanted by man. - Horace Kephart | |||
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Alf, If you do the same with a 7x64, I am sure it will knock the socks of a 7x57...makes since to me... I guarentee you the 7x57 is more popular than the 7x64 in the USA, not even a horse race here. Both are excellent rounds however...and the .280 is probably the best bet for a US resident. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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