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Boddington on Fox
07 July 2014, 18:01
tendramsBoddington on Fox
Really? You are going to defend Fox as the epitome of US journalism? You must be the same guy who argued a few years ago that Lance Armstrong must be clean and that there were WMDs in Iraq. Come on...don't be silly. I didn't say that Craig didn't do a great job. I simply made the assertion that offering his arguments on Fox is like preaching liberal politics on MSNBC. It's better than nothing, sure...but would be better if offered elsewhere.
07 July 2014, 18:02
ExpressYourselfI think Craig did a fine job. We are fortunate that he is being given the opportunity to speak out on behalf of the hunting community. I spoke with Craig early this morning. He was on his way for an additional appearance which is great.
Shawn
07 July 2014, 18:30
d.ungerFox is the best news source out there, period. I'm thankful they gave the truth some airtime. Didn't see any of the other networks doing that.
07 July 2014, 18:51
AnotherAZWriterI am glad he brought up the piece about photo safaris taking place in parks whereas hunting is done in more marginal areas. This is a point I drill home every time I debate those who question African hunting.
07 July 2014, 19:03
larryshoresquote:
Originally posted by tendrams:
Really? You are going to defend Fox as the epitome of US journalism? You must be the same guy who argued a few years ago that Lance Armstrong must be clean and that there were WMDs in Iraq. Come on...don't be silly. I didn't say that Craig didn't do a great job. I simply made the assertion that offering his arguments on Fox is like preaching liberal politics on MSNBC. It's better than nothing, sure...but would be better if offered elsewhere.
Personally, I think certain Fox personalities are fine. Certain others suck. Hell, If Obama cured cancer, Hannity would find fault with it. On the other hand, they are absolutely horrible at the other networks. While Fox may have problems, they are FAR better than the other networks.
07 July 2014, 19:33
Die Ou Jagtertendrams, it appears FOX is the only platform offered, would you say no to the opportunity because the other networks did not offer. You must be the guy that thought Oboma Care would solve all health problems and we would be living in Utopia.
07 July 2014, 19:45
Bud Meadowsquote:
Originally posted by fairgame:
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Originally posted by Bakes:
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You got Samantha Fox on your mind perhaps?
Showing your age there my friend. That's oh so 80's. Try Megan Fox. Little more....now
Samantha would be right up Craig's street.
Actually Andrew Samantha Fox is playing for the other team now- she married her lesbian manager
Jesus saves, but Moses invests
07 July 2014, 20:02
MacD37quote:
Originally posted by larryshores:
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Originally posted by tendrams:
Really? You are going to defend Fox as the epitome of US journalism? You must be the same guy who argued a few years ago that Lance Armstrong must be clean and that there were WMDs in Iraq. Come on...don't be silly. I didn't say that Craig didn't do a great job. I simply made the assertion that offering his arguments on Fox is like preaching liberal politics on MSNBC. It's better than nothing, sure...but would be better if offered elsewhere.
Personally, I think certain Fox personalities are fine. Certain others suck. Hell, If Obama cured cancer, Hannity would find fault with it. On the other hand, they are absolutely horrible at the other networks. While Fox may have problems, they are FAR better than the other networks.
I agree that FOX is disliked by the liberals of this world, that is a given! However there is a sound reason for that take on FOX. That reason is the most who have liberal leanings, and claim to be open minded, and actually believe they are, cannot stand to hear the truth if is doesn’t fit their personal bias.
This is caused by the last several years of listening to the absolute lies broadcast by the liberal press. These lies are not simply ignorance on the part of the other networks, but are simply their agenda in pandering to the socialist leaning of the present administration.
I can guarantee you the other networks, first of all, would not allow anyone who is pro hunting to talk on the air without being attack, by three or four antis being there to gang bang and talk over Boddington so he wouldn’t be able to get his point across.
I watched Boddington’s interview, and thought is was well presented, but even here we have folks who take exception to the broadcast because it was on FOX and I say how many think that broadcast would have even been considered on any of the other networks?
Hold your fire till I have time to dig my FOXhole!
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07 July 2014, 20:24
tendramsBoy you guys know how to make a mountain out of a molehill. Like Fox or not, do you think the average Fox viewer needs persuading? Yes, they were almost certainly the only network that asked...but that doesn't change the fact that our view needs a wider exposure than Fox.
07 July 2014, 20:33
WoodhitsI'd venture to guess that while plenty of Fox viewers are right-leaning and probably ok with hunting generally, to assume that they are knowledgeable on African hunting on conservation issues would be a stretch. The majority of hunters that I encounter aren't up to speed n this stuff, much less the average Sunday TV viewer.
07 July 2014, 20:56
maxenergyquote:
Originally posted by Woodhits:
I'd venture to guess that while plenty of Fox viewers are right-leaning and probably ok with hunting generally, to assume that they are knowledgeable on African hunting on conservation issues would be a stretch. The majority of hunters that I encounter aren't up to speed n this stuff, much less the average Sunday TV viewer.
i agree completely
Bob
07 July 2014, 22:25
Die Ou JagterOk did anyone see a tease the day before Tucker Carlson's interview. Carlson said he was a hunter BUT he only killed what he could eat thus he didn't understand "Trophy" hunting. Maybe Craig enlightened him as to the value of the meat in Africa. I know none of that was covered on camera but maybe off camera and we have a better understanding hunter.
08 July 2014, 02:19
BrettAKSCIquote:
Originally posted by Die Ou Jagter:
tendrams, who are the great interviewing talents on the other networks, ABC,CBS,NBC or CNN?
Most anyone on PBS News Hour. They don't have a preconceived message (left or right). They just report what happened and let you think what you want. They invite experts with actual knowledge to discuss stories and issues rather than try to have the same 10-20 pundits comment on every story as if they know what they're talking about and could possibly have an informed and exhaustive opinion about EVERYTHING. The also invite people from both sides to comment and discuss. They don't allow shouting matches and disrespectful behavior between guests. Their anchors politely and respectfully ask questions and then god forbid let the guest answer without interrupting them or shouting them down. It may not be as exciting as Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, or Chris Matthews interrupting their guests, shouting them down, and calling them idiots, but it's a hell of a lot more informative. As you could probably guess I've long ago given up on network news.
Brett
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08 July 2014, 02:56
subsailor74quote:
Originally posted by d.unger:
Larry, Brian kilmeade did the interview, I thought he was a weak interviewer. He could have covered some different questions if he had done his homework. No new points were made that weren't already covered in the previous interview.
Again, Craig did a fine job with what was given to him, and the short window he had.
Sadly, Brian Kilmeade is not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. I saw him do a piece a year or so on the Marine Corp during Fox and Friends. He lost me when in his early morning piece he talked about the blowing of "revelry" - getting facts straight ahead of time is not his strong suite.
08 July 2014, 03:49
Die Ou JagterPBS? about left as one can get.
08 July 2014, 04:18
BrettAKSCIquote:
Originally posted by Die Ou Jagter:
PBS? about left as one can get.
I use to think that too, but if you actually watch it you'll find they are by far the most unbiased reporting on TV. And I am NOT referring to the entire channel. Only the news hour.
Brett
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Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter
May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
-Seth Peterson
08 July 2014, 13:24
cow-traderquote:
Originally posted by BrettAKSCI:
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Originally posted by Die Ou Jagter:
PBS ? about left as one can get.
I use to think that too, but if you actually watch it you'll find
they are by far the most unbiased reporting on TV . And I am NOT referring to the entire channel. Only the news hour.
Brett
08 July 2014, 13:43
cow-traderquote:
Originally posted by tendrams:
Really? You are going to defend Fox as the epitome of US journalism? You must be the same guy who argued a few years ago that Lance Armstrong must be clean and that there were WMDs in Iraq. Come on...don't be silly. I didn't say that Craig didn't do a great job. I simply made the assertion that offering his arguments on Fox is like preaching liberal politics on MSNBC. It's better than nothing, sure...but would be better if offered elsewhere.
Yes...in the context of today's world...it is the closest thing to an "epitome of journalism" as we are served. Perfect??? Far from it. Thus, epitome is a misnomer.
Fox gets stronger and more refined yearly.
Tendrams,
Might you suggest your "epitome of US journalism"? Please spare our intelligence of advocating PBS.
08 July 2014, 14:00
tendramsquote:
Originally posted by cow-trader:
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Tendrams,
Might you suggest your "epitome of US journalism"? Please spare our intelligence of advocating PBS.
A wise consumer of news does not rely on one source....EVER! I watch BBC, CNN, MSNBC, Al Jazeera, France 24, you name it. I sometimes watch Fox...for pure entertainment value or if I need to raise my blood pressure.
08 July 2014, 14:32
cow-traderquote:
Originally posted by tendrams:
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Originally posted by cow-trader:
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Tendrams,
Might you suggest your "epitome of US journalism"? Please spare our intelligence of advocating PBS.
A wise consumer of news does not rely on one source....EVER! I watch BBC, CNN, MSNBC, Al Jazeera, France 24, you name it. I sometimes watch Fox...for pure entertainment value or if I need to raise my blood pressure.
While your multiple source comment is equitable...the concomitant information speaks volumes as to your turn of mind.
I postulate that your sir may enjoy a twist-of-left served with your headlines.
When it comes to so called news today, I tend to take whatever comes with a large dose of salt!
08 July 2014, 15:38
tendramsquote:
Originally posted by cow-trader:
[the concomitant information speaks volumes as to your turn of mind. I postulate that your sir may enjoy a twist-of-left served with your headlines.
What, because I didn't include World Net Daily?
08 July 2014, 17:17
shootawayIt is good to see a TV station, that from the looks of it, is on the hunters side.We need more of this,IMO.Perhaps others can do a better job although Boddington I think, did good job.
08 July 2014, 17:32
Tim ViningCraig's interview was spot on.
Tim
08 July 2014, 18:33
Bwana Bundukiquote:
Originally posted by tendrams:
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Originally posted by cow-trader:
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Tendrams,
Might you suggest your "epitome of US journalism"? Please spare our intelligence of advocating PBS.
A wise consumer of news does not rely on one source....EVER! I watch BBC, CNN, MSNBC, Al Jazeera, France 24, you name it. I sometimes watch Fox...for pure entertainment value or if I need to raise my blood pressure.
Tendrams is correct. Look at how stunned everyone on here is about the elephant and lion situation. Just can't believe it. If you want to be truly informed you need to step away from those that are like minded. This will in turn allow you to better communicate, advocate and educate your position. Holy shit, did that just sound like Jesse Jackson??? Ugh.
Jeff
08 July 2014, 21:04
cow-traderquote:
Originally posted by Bwana Bunduki:
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Originally posted by tendrams:
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Originally posted by cow-trader:
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Tendrams,
Might you suggest your "epitome of US journalism"? Please spare our intelligence of advocating PBS.
A wise consumer of news does not rely on one source....EVER! I watch BBC, CNN, MSNBC, Al Jazeera, France 24, you name it. I sometimes watch Fox...for pure entertainment value or if I need to raise my blood pressure.
Tendrams is correct. Look at how stunned everyone on here is about the elephant and lion situation. Just can't believe it.
If you want to be truly informed you need to step away from those that are like minded. This will in turn allow you to better communicate, advocate and educate your position. Holy shit, did that just sound like Jesse Jackson??? Ugh.
Jeff
Jeff,
I stated "said" above. See below for reference.quote:
Originally posted by cow-trader:
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Originally posted by tendrams:
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Originally posted by cow-trader:
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Tendrams,
Might you suggest your "epitome of US journalism"? Please spare our intelligence of advocating PBS.
A wise consumer of news does not rely on one source....EVER! I watch BBC, CNN, MSNBC, Al Jazeera, France 24, you name it. I sometimes watch Fox...for pure entertainment value or if I need to raise my blood pressure.
While your multiple source comment is equitable...the concomitant information speaks volumes as to your turn of mind.
I postulate that you sir may enjoy a twist-of-left served with your headlines.
That said sir, we were controverting "the epitome of quality news." I dare assert that Fox News is more inclined to convey precise, candid, and truthful information than any of the liberal spewing lot he cites.
I hear the auctioneer. 
09 July 2014, 09:15
MacD37quote:
Originally posted by tendrams:
A wise consumer of news does not rely on one source....EVER! I watch
BBC, CNN, MSNBC, Al Jazeera, France 24, you name it. I sometimes watch Fox...for pure entertainment value or if I need to raise my blood pressure.
Tendrams, please tell us which of those networks do you think would have broadcast the Boddington interview allowing him to talk without being shouted down by either the interviewer, or an anti?
I think you know that most of us tune into all those networks, but in the case of anything regarding hunting, FOX is, IMO, about the only one that would have allowed this type of thing to be broadcasted uninterrupted.
Yes the FOX interview is, for the most part preaching to the choir, but if on the other networks you wouldn’t hear it at all, what other choice do you have? At least because hunters are not the only audience FOX has so that is the only place a fence sitter will get these facts because he certainly would not get them from those other networks especially the BBC, or MSNBC.
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"If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982
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09 July 2014, 19:38
SliderCraig is still the man!!!