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I think that most folks badly underestimate the intelligence of animals. Not an Elephant but many years ago I raised a whitetail doe fawn. She stayed on the back porch and was cleaned by my two dogs, I fed her bottles till weaned. She stayed around for several months and gradually left for good. Six months later I drive up to the house to see her laying down in the garage. Upon approaching her I realize her back leg is badly broken, bone thru the skin, leg twisted. Vet is busy and can't come to my house. She has never been handled much and never been in a vehicle. I picked her up and set her on the seat of the truck without her fighting. Closed door and got in. I expected her to explode when I started the motor...nothing. I eased down the gravel drive and onto the road. NO problems, she just lay there calmly as we drove 20 miles to town. I went in and got the vet. He asked was she in a trailer? haha, he could not believe she rode on the front seat. He got a sedation shot and gave it to her without a flinch. She was NOT in shock, but fully alert. Took her inside when she passed out , removed the badly damaged leg and returned her to the truck. She woke up on the way home...without incident. She stayed around a couple of months and eventually went back to the woods, I would see her from time to time, doing well. Birmingham, Al | |||
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I remember seeing a clip of a dolphin entangled in mesh netting that came up to a boat for help. Also a whale! "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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I had a young buck fawn brought to me that had been run over by a car. Nothing hurt except all of the hair, skin, muscle was scrubbed off the top of a front leg for 6-7 inches, to the bone. My wife is an RN and said we needed to clean/spray/wrap the wound twice a day. First time she sat on the floor and laid the fawns leg over her leg to scrub it. And I mean scrub it. Fawn laid still while she scrubbed it, sprayed it , then wrapped it. It then jumped up and ran wide open thru the house and back to the utility room where it stayed. Next morning she approached the fawn and sat down. The fawn took off like a shot, all thru the house and back to the utility room....WHERE IT LAID DOWN NEXT TO MY WIFE AND LAID ITS WOUNDED LEG OVER HERS. Wife removed wrap, scrubbed wound, sprayed and rewrapped the leg. The fawn leapt up and sped thru the house and back to the utility room. Wife and the fawn did the same exact dance twice a day for7-8 days. Damndest thing I ever saw... Birmingham, Al | |||
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This story is brought to you by the same operator (along with Lion Aid) that brought us the last lion in the Omay story which was not true. My view is elephants frequent these camps for whatever reason. They do not have reasoning skills. If so, why did it not kneel down and allow the vet to work on it instead of being tranquilized. Other than cleaning the wound they really did nothing. But they did place a tracking collar on it and name it. So next year if I am hunting in the Tiger Bay jess and we are watching a bull elephant with decent ivory it steps out and I brain it what happens when it has a collar. Bumi is only 8 miles from Tiger Bay, not even a morning stroll for an elephant. I guess I will become the next Palmer at that point. I may be cynical but these guys are anti-hunting and I feel they always have an ulterior motive. The headline would read "Collar did not protect beloved elephant from safari hunter". It would be deja a vous, only this time with disastrous results. I do have this question. If an elephant is so smart and they can reason and understand human behavior why did the elephant kill the two British tourist on Hwange several years ago? They posed no threat. Why did the elephant kill the guide at Safari Lodge in Victoria Falls? He posed no threat. This is an extremely touristy area. | |||
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I think the whole anthropomorphism concept is a play on human weakness and used by anti-hunting groups to in someway make hunting appear more cruel and barbaric. Is it possible that on occasion an animal might exhibit attributes that would appear to be human in some vague way . . . perhaps . . . but that has more to do with serendipity than anything based in fact. Anthropomorphism is nothing more than humans trying to simplify things that cannot be explained. Mike | |||
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I'm not a hunter and have zero experience with wild elephant but I do see evidence that we underestimate the intelligence of many species. Are they not learning and evolving as we are? Your take on this story makes plenty of sense to me but it's the perspective of an elephant hunter, a tough sell to the non-hunting masses who unfortunately make many decisions regarding conservation etc. | |||
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I think in general people want stories that make them feel good or at least agree with their own world view and these people (non-hunting masses) do make decisions based on emotion. A lot of the Cecil story was a fabrication of lies, even according to the WILDCRU researchers. The truth while available will never be widely known because people want to believe the story the media told them. I can assure you if anything ever happens to this elephant, like being shot, hunters will once again be raked over the coals. | |||
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