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Anyone shoot the A-square bullets in .404 J?

I assume they are loaded to the more sedate loads of the original 404J offering from the early 20th century?
The A-Square (Any Shot You Want)lists the original load data thus my assumption that there factory loads are of the same levels. Would this be a correct assumption?
 
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Someone, several years ago, sent me a box. A month or so, I finally loaded them up (400 grain Dead Toughs, btw) at 2200 fps, according to the loading data I had.

I went down to 1115's place, along with Jorge, Mbogo375 and others. I have no idea what they'll do on game, but with three people shooting my .404 Jeffery, every dang bullet of the eight or so, touched the first shot. There was just a big ragged hole, all this from 100 yards over the hood of a truck!

Sorry that I can't tell you about terminal performance, but I surely can't complain about accuracy.
 
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Judge,
sounds good definitely worth shooting a box at least.
Thanks
 
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Judge G,
Weidmansheil! Good hunting!
I am working up loads for Tanz in July with my 416/404 (416Howell). I'd like to know what you are using as a starting load for the 404 for comparison purposes.

I am also working up loads for my 425 Express using some of the A-Square Lion Loads for 404 Jeffery. If you have an opportunity to tag something with one of these, I'd love to know how they perform. I remember reading some place that someone considered them to frangible.

I also have some original Barne's soft point in the same caliber. All are probably too valuable at this point to hunt, but what the heck, I don't expect to use many or too be that way again any time soon. Kudude
 
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Kudude,

I've heard the same things about the Lion Loads being frangible.
No personal experience though.
 
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Jedge G,

Can you go back to the range with four 5 gallon buckets of water and whack them with your 404?

I am curious what the dead tough will do but at over $2/apeice have not tried to find out.

Andy
 
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Kudude:

I was using 72 grains of RE15 which is a A-Square manual load that they list as 2210 out of a 26" barrel (which I have). The rifle is built on a 1909 Argentine Mauser, drop box, etc., etc. Nice, huh?

I'll try to get it to my lease and recover a bullet or two this weekend.



JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous.
 
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Not just nice - VERY NICE!
 
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Judge G,
Thanks for the load data. A Square's bullets must be pretty good. I had two Lion Loads less than 3/4" at 100yds and dead on. Velocity was 2340fps. This is from my 425 Express using 73gr H4895 (Max Load) 210 FC Match primer. I did not shoot any more of them at the time because of time constraints.

Very nice rifle. Kudude
 
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Kudude,
Finally hit the range today.
Using 83 grains of Varget and fed 215 primers I got just over 2500 fps in the new .404!
She shot very well! Needless to say I am very pleased.
 
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Originally posted by carmelolisciotto:

Using 83 grains of Varget and fed 215 primers I got just over 2500 fps in the new .404!


You shoulda got a .416 Weatherby.
 
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Carmelo,
Good shooting. what weight bullet? I know that my 416/404 would not come close to that right now with any weight bullet. We are still working up loads for it. Stay in touch and we will figure this thing out. Kudude
 
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Kudude,
400 grain A-frames.

I started with 72 grains of Varget and worked my way up a grain at a time to 83gr. I was trying to reach 2500fps and hit it.
 
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